[UK-CONTEST] 80m CC Data leg scoring errors

Sat Jul 23 02:11:38 PDT 2011

Hi Rob,

In that case the entrant will learn a hard lesson, and not be too popular 
with his fellow club members!

Without the info' you've now provided, the original post looked a bit harsh. 
I stand corrected.

73 Bob G8HGN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G4LMW" <g4lmw at btconnect.com>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 80m CC Data leg scoring errors

>
> Rob
>
> I am not the adjudicator. My role here is to correct the output results as
> shown on the website.
>
> The original results did show all the QSOs as zero, but the wrong points
> filtered through to the Club's score. All I have done is correct the 
> score.
>
> The entrant (on submission) did receive the warning "all QSOs invalid 
> mode".
> This would have been on screen. It was backed-up with an email warning to
> the same effect.
>
> Regards
> Rob, G4LMW
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Harrison" <robharrison at g8hgn.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: "G4LMW" <g4lmw at btconnect.com>; "UK Contest Reflector"
> <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 9:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 80m CC Data leg scoring errors
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> That seems a bit harsh. If all QSO's were on the wrong mode, it's
>> obviously an input error setting up the logging program, the QSO's would
>> have been made with the correct mode, or else they wouldn't appear in all
>> the other logs. Doesn't it follow that if all the QSO's are then invalid,
>> the other end should lose the points for working the wrong mode?
>>
>> Doesn't the contest uploader point this out to you, it does at VHF. It
>> gives you warnings about times (BST or GMT), serials (all missing), 
>> modes,
>> etc and lets you correct and re-submit.
>>
>> Rules is rules, but come on, at least let the entrant know before you
>> penalise them after all the effort of doing the contest.
>>
>> Bob G8HGN
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "G4LMW" <g4lmw at btconnect.com>
>> To: "UK Contest Reflector" <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 9:28 AM
>> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] 80m CC Data leg scoring errors
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Dear CC Contesters
>>>
>>> It has come to light that there were some errors in the calculated 
>>> scores
>>> in the Jan/Feb/Mar/Apr Data legs of the CCs. Thankfully, Bristol are so
>>> far ahead that it does not affect the eventual winners. However, it is
>>> significant in the race for 2nd place.
>>>
>>> With one more set of scores to be published (July Data),  it does mean
>>> that Norfolk and De Montfort swap places in the current standings.
>>>
>>> The large loss of points for Scunthorpe is for one log that had an
>>> invalid mode for every QSO and so should have scored 0 points, not over
>>> 600.
>>>
>>> The web pages and spreadsheets have been updated. It took a while as
>>> amending over 500 individual scores and the resultant team scores was 
>>> not
>>> that simple! I should stress that this was not an error in adjudication
>>> of the logs, rather the way that those logs translated to a score.
>>> Because of the "quirky" nature of Data contest scoring it only affected
>>> these modes. SSB and CW were unaffected.
>>>
>>> I am sure you would all agree that it is better to get the scores 
>>> correct
>>> now. The detail of the calculations can be found here:
>>>
>>> http://www.rsgbcc.org/hf/files/CCDataError.xls
>>>
>>> They are quite complex, so if anyone wants me to walk through them, it 
>>> is
>>> best to call me on 07970 885614.
>>>
>>> Our apologies to all concerned, but the error has now been fixed moving
>>> forwards
>>>
>>> The net result of the corrections are:
>>>
>>> Aberdeen ARS no change
>>> Addiscombe ARC -1
>>> Bangor & DARS +1
>>> BARTG -6
>>> Bittern DX Group -11
>>> Blackwood & DARS -3
>>> Bolton Wireless Club -1
>>> Bracknell ARC -7
>>> Brimham CG +1
>>> Bristol CG +53
>>> Camb-Hams no change
>>> CDXC no change
>>> Chelmsford ARS no change
>>> Cheltenham ARA +12
>>> Christchurch ARS -3
>>> Clifton ARS +1
>>> Colchester RA -19
>>> Crawley ARC no change
>>> Cray Valley RS +1
>>> De Montfort University ARS -21
>>> Denby Dale ARS no change
>>> Dragon ARC no change
>>> Echelford ARS no change
>>> Essex CW ARC -11
>>> Flight Refuelling ARS no change
>>> Furness ARS +3
>>> Glengormley Electronics ARS no change
>>> Gloucester AR&ES -1
>>> GMDX -26
>>> Gordano ARG no change
>>> Granta Contest Group no change
>>> Grimsby ARS -37
>>> Hadley Wood CG no change
>>> Halifax & DARC no change
>>> Harwell ARS +11
>>> Harwich ARIG no change
>>> Hog's Back ARC no change
>>> Horndean & District ARC no change
>>> Hornsea ARC -10
>>> Horsham ARC +23
>>> Humber Fortress DX ARC +8
>>> Huntingdon ARS +10
>>> Isle of Man ARS no change
>>> KDARS no change
>>> Kilmarnock & Loudoun ARC +8
>>> Kingdom ARS +1
>>> Leicester RS no change
>>> Lichfield ARS -6
>>> Lorn ARS no change
>>> Lowestoft District & Pye ARC no change
>>> Malvern Hills RAC -5
>>> Martlesham DX & CG no change
>>> Melton Mowbray ARS -10
>>> Mid Beds CA no change
>>> Mid Cheshire ARS -1
>>> Newbury & DARS -21
>>> Newquay & DARS -1
>>> Norfolk ARC +27
>>> North East Surrey CG no change
>>> North of Scotland CG no change
>>> Northampton Communication Club no change
>>> Ossett ARO -21
>>> Preston ARS +4
>>> RAF Waddington ARC +7
>>> Reading & DARC -28
>>> Reigate ATS +4
>>> Sands CG no change
>>> Scarborough ARS +5
>>> Scunthorpe Steel ARC -668
>>> Sheffield ARC -13
>>> Shefford & DARS no change
>>> South Cheshire ARS -7
>>> Stockport RS no change
>>> Stratford-upon-avon & DRS -7
>>> Strictly Contest Club -16
>>> Sutton & Cheam RS no change
>>> Tall Trees CG -23
>>> Taunton & DARC -1
>>> Three As CG +19
>>> Torbay ARS +11
>>> Travelling Wave CG +62
>>> Verulam ARC no change
>>> Warrington ARC +46
>>> Welland Valley ARS +1
>>> West Kent ARS no change
>>> Weston Super Mare RS no change
>>> Worthing & District ARC no change
>>> Wythall RC +4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Rob Thomson, G4LMW
>>> RSGBCC Webmaster
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