[UK-CONTEST] 50MHz UKAC: Who did we miss?

Alex GM3ZBE alex at gm3zbe.plus.com
Sat Mar 26 07:39:40 PDT 2011


I live in a rural setting with no neighbours, consequentially I have a 
very low noise level.  That in combination with the fact that many 
stations down South are in densely populated areas with the attendant 
high noise/qrm  is a major factor.
I lived in IO92fm for 17 years, so I know what it is like from both 
ends!  An operating problem I notice is that some stations hardly pause 
for breath between CQ's, their agc is not given time to fall back and 
allow them to hear weaker stations calling ;-)
73
Alex

On 26/03/2011 12:12, Christopher Plummer wrote:
> Alex,
>
> To support Rogers reply, as we both operate from IO83 and are only 
> some 14km apart weboth check our signals with each other to make sure 
> the rigs are claen on transmit.  However, as also 50% of the stations 
> in a UKAC session are located in IO83 we do suffer from wide and dirty 
> signals.  Both our sites are pretty good locations so we SHOULD have 
> no problems working you in IO86 (I did last time out on 6m you were my 
> first GM)  but to work GM we have to turn our antenns across the noise 
> hole of IO83, its almost a wall of noise at times.  When you consider 
> Bolton WC get 8 to 10 /P station ranged around Winter hill to the 
> north of us then sidebands are a problem.
>
> I will say that with the two Rogers having worked on their gear and 
> antenna last year and getting a fairly bomb proof rig, they are doing 
> very well in their section.  Jimmy, M1EYP/P goes into the QRP section 
> and is on the same ridge of the Pennines as my QTH and only 5 km away 
> he copes with Rogers and my signals quite well and comes out well up 
> in his section.  When all our few scores (4 or 5 depending on weather) 
> are added we are up with the big boys in the overall list 3rd. on 6m.  
> The Rogers and Jimmy try to do all 2m and 70cm as well, while I have 
> other HF and Data contests to cope with so I'm only doing 6m this year 
> for UKAC.
>
> Anyway keep pointing southerly and we'll still attempt to work you.  
> Notice if you will that David GI4SNA worked around 60 contacts and 
> beat both Roger and my overall score in March, because he gets 
> 300points from us and anwhere else in IO83 whereas we get 20-80 on 
> average.
>
> 73 de Chris G8APB
>
> > From: roger.thawley at sky.com
> > To: alex at gm3zbe.plus.com; uk-contest at contesting.com
> > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:59:37 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 50MHz UKAC: Who did we miss?
> >
> > Alex,
> >
> > For some reason team M0GVG/P frequently misses you and it’s not
> > for a want of beaming towards GM. I guess that you’re just buried 
> under the
> > general mêlée of stations in our home square (IO83) and, unless you 
> stumble
> > across us, never the two shall meet! As Eddie mentions, below, IO83 is a
> > pretty busy patch and finding a perch to operate from can prove 
> challenging
> > in some contests.
> >
> > Having played around with different equipment over the past few 
> years, it’s
> > an education to experience how much better a radio with a decent 
> front-end
> > deals with strong local signals, than one with a run of the mill 
> front-end
> > does (doesn’t).
> >
> > Anyway, that IO86 multiplier is always welcome! We’ll keep looking for
> > you!
> >
> >
> >
> > Roger, G0BSU (M0GVG/P)
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> > [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Alex GM3ZBE
> > Sent: 26 March 2011 06:28
> > To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 50MHz UKAC: Who did we miss?
> >
> >
> >
> > I notice this "deaf" station business quite a lot. I am talking about
> > sigs which are genuine S7 to S9 but do not respond when I call and they
> > just carry on CQ'ing. I am running legal limit on 6M, so it's not lack
> > of power at this end?
> > Alex GM3ZBE
> >
> > On 25/03/2011 19:06, Eddie G0EHV wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I was active in this session /P for the first time this year.
> > >
> > > I notice that some stations are always difficult to call and some 
> always
> > > hear me first time.
> > > I suspect that the apparent "deaf" ones are probably subject to local
> > noise
> > > and/or local QRM, it must be difficult in "QRM alley" (aka IO83) 
> to pick
> > out
> > > the weaker ones!
> > > Hopefully I'm not being called very often and not responding.
> > >
> > > Being in a remote noise free area (IO84) I hear some strange 
> things, for
> > > example there were two of the well placed stations both working same
> > > frequency at the same time and not a million miles apart from each 
> other!
> > I
> > > worked one and turned the beam to work the other. Strange thing 
> was that
> > > both of them were doing well with a string of QSO's oblivious to each
> > other.
> > >
> > > As far as a squares analysis goes, I'd be interested in how many calls
> > were
> > > logged per square, not neccessarily the call signs.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Eddie
> > > Usually G0EHV/P
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > 73 Alex, GM3ZBE ~~~ Kingdom of Fife ~~~ IO86lf ~~~
> > Member of:
> > De Montfort University ARS, GMDX Group, CDXC, RSGB
> > Founder member Kingdom Amateur Radio Society (KARS)
> > Holder of GM4BRN club call http://www.kars.org.uk/
> > Previous callsigns GM8BYG, G3ZBE
> >
> > Remember..............It's only a hobby!
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73 Alex, GM3ZBE ~~~ Kingdom of Fife ~~~ IO86lf ~~~
Member of:
De Montfort University ARS, GMDX Group, CDXC, RSGB
Founder member Kingdom Amateur Radio Society (KARS)
Holder of GM4BRN club call http://www.kars.org.uk/
Previous callsigns GM8BYG, G3ZBE

Remember..............It's only a hobby!
When the going get's tough..........take a nap!!
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