[UK-CONTEST] R prefix

[Nubsey G0VDZ]

I worked the G4R station, Just logged him Not my problem it's his if he 
makes an entry, but I dare say ok as a check log
73  Nubsey G0VDZ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cris at gm4fam.plus.com>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:22 AM
Subject: [UK-CONTEST] R prefix


> The complainant forgot the most important contest rule of all - Work First
> Worry Later.
>
> 73 Cris
> GM4FAM
>
>
>
>
>> My brother who hasn't used the radio properly for probably twenty years
>> has recently thrown up an aerial and started playing wireless again. 
>> He's
>> got an NoV, giving him a GR4 callsign and when I mentioned that it was 
>> the
>> 80m CC tonight he decided to give away a few points.  I did tell him he
>> couldn't put an entry in but was fine to work people and give away 
>> points.
>>
>> The third station he called complained about his callsign.  He said that
>> he's not actually competing but was told in reply to "go and read the
>> rules".
>>
>> I think this is pretty poor behaviour on that person.  As below, it's
>> quite legitimate for an entrant to work someone using a special callsign
>> but the person using the special callsign isn't entitled to put an entry
>> in.
>>
>> It's also ironic because the person who told my brother to go "read the
>> rules" clearly didn't have an understanding of the rules himself.
>>
>> I don't know who it was but I hope you're reading this.  Shame on you.
>>
>> 73
>> Keith, G6NHU
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 May 2011, at 01:16, Steve Knowles <g3ufy at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Chris.
>>>
>>> As an entrant you would be perfectly entitled to claim a contact with
>>> any
>>> properly licensed station for points, subject to any individual contest
>>> rules, so working GR stations is OK.  But, as an entrant, you may not
>>> USE a
>>> special callsign on HF.  Because you require a NOV in order to use the
>>> GR
>>> prefix, it is definitely a special callsign.
>>>
>>> So your assessment of the situation is crrect - you can work GRs, but
>>> not BE
>>> a GR in RSGB HF Contests.
>>>
>>> Hope this clarifies the situation.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> G3UFY
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chris G4FZN" <ukcontest at mailbox01.freeserve.co.uk>
>>> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] R prefix
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On 1 May 2011 at 12:57, G4LMW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The HF General Rules apply to the CCs and specifically exclude the
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> of Special Prefixes. See rule 6(a)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.rsgbcc.org/hf/information/hfgenrules.shtml
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's not quite right. Rule 6(a) does not say "special prefixes" at
>>>> all.
>>>> It
>>>> simply says "UK stations may not use special (eg. GB or GX etc),
>>>> callsigns
>>>> nor be /MM or /AM."
>>>>
>>>> The issue hinges on whether the insertion of the letter "R" into one's
>>>> own
>>>> personal callsign makes it a "special callsign" or not. That, in
>>>> itself,
>>>> is
>>>> open to interpretation.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I'd play safe and not use it, but if someone calls me using
>>>> the
>>>> "R", I see no reason not to claim the points.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris
>>>> G4FZN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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