[UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx

Bob Henderson bob at 5b4agn.net
Mon May 30 08:31:39 PDT 2011


Rule f) applies to all entrants.  It is possible to have four antennas on
the same band located within a 500m diameter circle with no two antennas in
line of sight to another.

Terrain old man, terrain.

Bob, 5B4AGN

On 30 May 2011 15:07, Danny Higgins <danny.higgins at keme.co.uk> wrote:

> Tom, it depends on how big your QTH is:
>
> (f) All operation must take place from one operating site. Transmitters and
> receivers must be located within a 500-meter diameter circle or within the
> property limits of the station licensee, whichever is greater. All antennas
> must be physically connected by wires to the transmitters and receivers
> used
> by the entrant.
>
> One rule for the rich, and one for the rest of us!
>
> Danny, G3XVR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom GM4FDM
> Sent: 30 May 2011 16:01
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx
>
> Isnt there a 500m rule for antennas?
>
>
> Tom
> GM4FDM
>
>
>
> On 30/05/2011 15:25, Bob Henderson wrote:
> > The idea is that both stations keep their respective frequencies busy by
> > interleaving their Qs such that this situation doesn't really arise.  In
> a
> > multi-op station there will typically be two operators on a band, each
> with
> > his own transceiver but both interlocked to prevent the 2 x signal
> > infringement.  I understand that two operators well practised in this
> > particular technique can reliably achieve 140% individual run rate.  So
> each
> > station is doing 70% rate of a top flight operator i.e hitting 100 -
> > 150Q/hr.  Essentially when one transmits the other receives and vice
> versa.
> > Both frequencies stay pretty busy. :-)
> >
> > This frequency busy but apparently unoccupied phenomena is mostly
> associated
> > with SO2R stations where a single operator is QRV on two frequencies.
> >
> > Incidentally, I am aware of four operators each with their own
> transceiver
> > and antennas having been deployed on a single band.  Two running
> interleaved
> > piles and two sweeping for mults.  Only one carrier transmitted at any
> one
> > time to keep inside the rules of course.
> >
> > Terrain is key to this kind of game, as each stations antennas should be
> out
> > of sight of the others on the same band.  Lots of dosh helps too.
> >
> > Bob, 5B4AGN
> >
> >
> >
> > On 30 May 2011 13:22, Rob
> Harrison<robharrison at g8hgn.freeserve.co.uk>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> First off let me say I don't operate on HF. But I understand what is
> going
> >> on technically.
> >>
> >> However what happens when another station finds what he thinks is a
> clear
> >> freaquency only to be told the frequency is occupied by the said station
> who
> >> is actually on a different frequency, .i.e. how does the said station
> keep
> >> two active frequencies when only transmitting on one, and if he does,
> >> doesn't that infringe the rules?
> >>
> >> Bob G8HGN
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Henderson"<bob.5b4agn at gmail.com
> >
> >> To: "Callum McC"<callum at mccormick.uk.com>
> >> Cc: "UK Contest Reflector"<uk-contest at contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:46 PM
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Exactly Callum.
> >>>
> >>> The sponsors are the arbiters and so far they've considered it to be
> >>> within
> >>> the rules.  BUT as G3SXW suggests; things may be about to change.  At
> >>> least
> >>> wrt CQWW.
> >>>
> >>> Bob, 5B4AGN
> >>>
> >>> On 30 May 2011 12:24, Callum McC<callum at mccormick.uk.com>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   >>>  Whether it was within the spirit of the contest or not
> >>>> The rules of the game are to win, within the rules. That's the spirit.
> >>>>
> >>>> You are either within the rules - or not.
> >>>>
> >>>> C.
> >>>>
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