[UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx

Stewart GM4AFF stewart at gm4aff.net
Mon May 30 13:05:55 PDT 2011


>One rule for the rich, and one for the rest of us!

Sadly, that does seem to be the issue with this thread.

Stewart
GM4AFF

(deliberately open to misinterpretation ;-)



-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Danny Higgins
Sent: 30 May 2011 16:08
To: 'Tom GM4FDM'; uk-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx


Tom, it depends on how big your QTH is:

(f) All operation must take place from one operating site. Transmitters and
receivers must be located within a 500-meter diameter circle or within the
property limits of the station licensee, whichever is greater. All antennas
must be physically connected by wires to the transmitters and receivers used
by the entrant.

One rule for the rich, and one for the rest of us!

Danny, G3XVR

-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom GM4FDM
Sent: 30 May 2011 16:01
To: uk-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx

Isnt there a 500m rule for antennas?


Tom
GM4FDM



On 30/05/2011 15:25, Bob Henderson wrote:
> The idea is that both stations keep their respective frequencies busy by
> interleaving their Qs such that this situation doesn't really arise.  In a
> multi-op station there will typically be two operators on a band, each
with
> his own transceiver but both interlocked to prevent the 2 x signal
> infringement.  I understand that two operators well practised in this
> particular technique can reliably achieve 140% individual run rate.  So
each
> station is doing 70% rate of a top flight operator i.e hitting 100 -
> 150Q/hr.  Essentially when one transmits the other receives and vice
versa.
> Both frequencies stay pretty busy. :-)
>
> This frequency busy but apparently unoccupied phenomena is mostly
associated
> with SO2R stations where a single operator is QRV on two frequencies.
>
> Incidentally, I am aware of four operators each with their own transceiver
> and antennas having been deployed on a single band.  Two running
interleaved
> piles and two sweeping for mults.  Only one carrier transmitted at any one
> time to keep inside the rules of course.
>
> Terrain is key to this kind of game, as each stations antennas should be
out
> of sight of the others on the same band.  Lots of dosh helps too.
>
> Bob, 5B4AGN
>
>
>
> On 30 May 2011 13:22, Rob
Harrison<robharrison at g8hgn.freeserve.co.uk>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> First off let me say I don't operate on HF. But I understand what is
going
>> on technically.
>>
>> However what happens when another station finds what he thinks is a clear
>> freaquency only to be told the frequency is occupied by the said station
who
>> is actually on a different frequency, .i.e. how does the said station
keep
>> two active frequencies when only transmitting on one, and if he does,
>> doesn't that infringe the rules?
>>
>> Bob G8HGN
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Henderson"<bob.5b4agn at gmail.com>
>> To: "Callum McC"<callum at mccormick.uk.com>
>> Cc: "UK Contest Reflector"<uk-contest at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:46 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx
>>
>>
>>
>>> Exactly Callum.
>>>
>>> The sponsors are the arbiters and so far they've considered it to be
>>> within
>>> the rules.  BUT as G3SXW suggests; things may be about to change.  At
>>> least
>>> wrt CQWW.
>>>
>>> Bob, 5B4AGN
>>>
>>> On 30 May 2011 12:24, Callum McC<callum at mccormick.uk.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>   >>>  Whether it was within the spirit of the contest or not
>>>> The rules of the game are to win, within the rules. That's the spirit.
>>>>
>>>> You are either within the rules - or not.
>>>>
>>>> C.
>>>>
>>>>
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