[UK-CONTEST] VHF NFD results table

John MacLean MM0CCC mm0ccc at gmx.co.uk
Sun Sep 25 09:03:06 PDT 2011


If several non-UK entrants submitted logs, I'd perhaps see the need for a 
seperate listing (or section) however that is not presently the case.  As a 
member of a club who enters the same section as the group this thread refers 
to,  I have no objection to them appearing above our clubs listing.  Their 
score has merited it, and it's not as if they are stealing our trophies or 
certificates.  They have entered well aware they are not elligible for RSGB 
awards.

I'd even go further and suggest that RSGBCC liase with IRTS to Open VHF 
Field Day to /P entrants throughout the British Isles.  You only need to 
look at their entry numbers to last year's VHF Field Day in EI to see they 
have little incentive to take part, as there is hardly anyone to complete 
against.

Scandinavia already group together through the SAC activity contests.  I'll 
wager (though I may be wrong) there's something similar in the Benelux 
countries?  And of course, DL and F, like the UK,  have high enough 
populations/licensees to maintain reasonable participation levels and 
competition.  EI does not have this luxury, and the UK is geographically the 
only suitable DXCC that they could join in with, from a VHF/UHF point of 
view.

Boron-Carbide hat and vest already donned/fitted.

73
John MM0CCC


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From: "Peter Tribe" <ptribe at tiscali.co.uk>
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Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 12:32 PM
Subject: [UK-CONTEST] VHF NFD results table


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>>OK, I admit it. I've been out of the UK for some time now.
>>
>>But, I still try my best to stay in touch and get to know what's
>>going on in Blighty.
>>
>>The VHF FD Results raised an ex-pat eyebrow however. Why would a
>>non-UK group be listed in the
>>tables? An impressive score, but not wholly relevant to the contest
>>as they're not permitted to
>>enter as I recall? Or has something changed in my absence?  8-)
>>
>>Do these (virtual) winners also get band leader and/or winner 
>>certificates?
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Phil Smeaton
>>G0HSS / VK4BAA / VK4KW
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
> Phil - As an entrant to VHF NFD I entirely agree with your comments.
> It seems pointless to me to include overseas scores in the results
> table, particularly when they award themselves more points on each
> band that legitimate entires can claim and they are legally allowed
> to use two and a half times the power of UK entries.
> The tables would look a right mess if all the French, German, Dutch
> and Belgium groups sent in their scores.
> I am delighted that people want to take part in a UK contest and if
> you want to go to Irelend why not? The more the merrier. But frankly
> their scores are only useful as a checklog and distort the tables for
> the proper entries. The simplest solution would be to have a separate
> list for foreign entries.
> The other area that needs addressing is the inequity between the
> scoring for the different bands. If you stay up all night on 23 cms
> you might make 80 contacts for a maximum of 1000 pts whereas you can
> get the same score for 6 hours' operating on 4m. Shurely somthing wrong 
> ere!
>
> 73 all Peter Tribe  G0VVE
>
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