[UK-CONTEST] HF CW Field Day / G0CKV

[Don Field]

Semantics Stewart. There used to be a divide between "correspondiong
members" and "full members" of the committee. The latter attended meetings,
the former did the backroom work. But as 99% is done by email now, it makes
sense for everyone to be on the Committee reflector, as most of the
correspondence is about things like "can you advise on how I put these
results on the webpage" or other practical matters like that. Relatively
little is about policy.

As it happens, we already publish provisional results for the IOTA contest,
with two weeks or so for appeals and have done for the past few years. But
for some events (like the 80m CC events) it would be nonesense, as the idea
is to turn the results around before the next month's event. Horses for
courses.

(The above is not an "official" committee reply - just my observation on
what actually happens at the moment)

Don G3XTT

On 19 April 2012 08:17, Stewart Bryant <stewart at g3ysx.org.uk> wrote:

> Don
>
> However the committee do not NEED to be the adjudicators, they
> only NEED to be the oversight body for the adjudicators.
>
> Ideally, the adjudicators should be picked from a larger
> pool of volunteers. The participants should be excluded
> from adjudicating a contest, and the logs and adjudication
> report should be put in the public domain for two weeks
> for scrutiny before the result is finalized.
>
> I am sure the pool of adjudication volunteers is much larger
> than the pool of committee volunteers.
>
> I know that work in the past required wading through heaps
> of paper, but we do not live in the past.
>
> Stewart/G3YSX
>
>
>
>
> On 18/04/2012 17:16, Don Field wrote:
>
>> The Committee IS the adjudicators Stewart. In years gone by that's all
>> they
>> did (pretty much) - wading through heaps of paper logs was enough in
>> itself. It's only since computers have made adjudication quicker (and more
>> accurate, despite some recent postings on here) that there has been time
>> for philosophical discussions of contesting policy - I guess it must have
>> happened in the past but probably 50 years ago and then put to bed.
>>
>> Don G3XTT
>>
>> On 18 April 2012 15:52, Stewart Bryant<stewart at g3ysx.org.uk>  wrote:
>>
>>  More of the committee work should be done in the public domain
>>> and not behind closed doors.
>>>
>>> There is no reason for a large ctte if the contest design happened
>>> by consultation, and there is no reason why the adjudication pool
>>> should come exclusively from the contest ctte.
>>>
>>> Stewart/G3YSX
>>>
>>> On 18/04/2012 10:45, Chris G3SJJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adrian, obviously there would need to be a vacancy created by someone
>>>>
>>> leaving the Contest Committee. The are currently 17 members covering VHF
>>> and HF
>>>
>>>> events. I guess if one of them resigned, the position would be
>>>>
>>> advertised in RadCom, and/or on this Reflector.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In some ways you may be correct about "by invitation," in that if, say
>>>>
>>> for example, Q G3WRR left, they may want to look for an experienced CW FD
>>>
>>>> person to take over, or again if one of the VHF guys left the same could
>>>>
>>> apply.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could I also suggest that sarcastic comments wouldn't particularly be
>>>>
>>> helpful in getting positively noticed to work in the team!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris G3SJJ  (Member of the former HFCC 1985-2000)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17/04/2012 22:34, UK Contest wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have been waiting for news about SSB FD rules, and now take it that
>>>>>
>>>> this years event will use the previous rule set.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I can get on with planning my entry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Turning to Olof's comments, I agree with his observations and comments.
>>>>>
>>>> I hope that that they are noted !
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> By the way, I am still waiting to understand how people get onto the
>>>>>
>>>> RSGB HFCC. As far as I can make out its by invitation. Is this what Olof
>>> means by " back room deals among a privileged inner circle" ?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Who do I get th
>>>>>
>>>> e invite from then ?
>
>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrian MW1LCR / GW9X
>>>>>
>>>>>
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