[UK-CONTEST] 5NN

[Rob Harrison]

Ken,

Apart from 4M, 2M has also been suffering from this lately with the ES 
openings, as it does every year.

It's natural to listen or call on 144.300 as that's where anyone looking for 
DX will be listening or calling initially.

However there are those out there that have no idea what ES is and don't 
seem to listen to what the callers is saying or asking for e.g. CQ ES or CQ 
Sporadic, and call for a local QSO. Local is relative, but something you'd 
work under normal conditions. You then get locals calling stations looking 
for DX, and stations looking for DX going QRZ every few minutes thinking the 
local is DX!! It's a mess.

Personally I think it's about time we had a DX calling frequency and a local 
centre of activity to seperate out these two in these situations. So when 
the sporadic is about the two won't mix hopefully. Where you put both is up 
to debate, but at present it's a mess and stations are loosing QSO's due to 
the calling and over calling. Spreading out is partly a cure, with the high 
signal strengths of both caller and called  staying on 144.300 is not the 
best option.

As for VHF NFD I'll be active looking for DX, and giving a few points away 
over most of Saturday and the end on Sunday. As for reports I'll copy what's 
sent and send what I believe is the correct one in my opinion.

73

 Bob G8HGN

------ Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken" <ken.g3lvp at btinternet.com>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 5NN


> Bob,
>
> As a G3... (& not one whose found the need to assume a 'vanity'
> callsign) I don't need a tin hat!
>
> I agree that there's plenty of space on the VHF bands & there's no need
> for everyone to sit on the same frequency.
> This is a problem particularly on 4m during E openings when almost all
> of the DX stations sit on
> 70.2  QRM'ing each other not realizing how difficult it is at this end
> to sort them out.
> Whilst there are problems with the differing & in some cases limited
> allocations there's no need for everyone to sit exactly on the
> CALLING frequency! Hopefully if there are any openings during VHF NFD
> this w/end common sense will prevail.
>
> Whilst I won't be taking part in VHF NFD (fixed stations entering a
> portable contest?) as there's no local interest  (we only just managed
> to find enough people to enter HF NFD) and looking at the number of
> major events taking place this weekend the WX is shaping up to do its 
> worst.
> I will however be giving a few points away and submitting a check log so
> woe betide anyone who gives me a fictional 5N (N) report, I hope that
> everyone knows what QSA? means!
>
> 73...
>
> Ken
>
> G3LVP
>
>
>
> Hi Ken, Hope you've got a tin hat handy. 59 or 599 is the accepted norm
> on HF certainly in contests.
>
> I wouldn't presume to try and change it. However VHF including 6M is a
> different area. Where we've always given a report dependent on what we
> see on the meter or hear.
>
> I think the erosion of that on 6M at least is due to the many HF rigs
> that now have 6M as standard and HF op's are trying out 6M for the 1st
> time, and bring the practices to the band, as they know no different.
> It's a half way house between HF & VHF and has characteristics of both.
> So I suppose both practices will be apparent.
>
> What wouldn't like is that to continue upward through the bands,
> although in major pan-European contests it's starting to get more
> prevalent. As an aside, if op's new to 6M are considering coming on the
> band, please have a look at the band plan before operating. Especially
> the bit between 50.100 and 50.130, there's plenty of space on the band,
> thanks, 73 Bob G8HGN
>
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