[UK-CONTEST] UBNs - ARRL DX CW

[Tony (GW8ASD)]

If anyone is filling in their logs expecting a constant string of 59 off me,
in a contest, there will be a lot of invalid QSOs.
If you are difficult to copy you may well get a 32 report.
Whereas giving a "real report" isn't a scientific measurement it is a more
realistic representation of a QSO.
My observation of some HF contests is that they are, sometimes, much more of
an educated guess than a log entry based on confirmed passing of
information.
I've never understood the exchanges that are just a callsign.
Even adding the CQ zone doesn't increase the difficulty.

The VHF contests, with report, serial number, locator (six figures) and
often other information to pass, are much more of a challenge and more
representative of amateur radio.

Cheers

Tony

GW8ASD
6M, and up, from IO83lb.

-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tony G4NBS
Sent: 26 June 2012 19:33
To: uk-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] UBNs - ARRL DX CW

Unless of course you wish to know the other station can really copy what you
send, not guess from a database.

Don't keep pushing HF practices where quantity rules over quality Paul.

Refer to original Email from Dave to see the context.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Paul O'Kane
Sent: 26 June 2012 18:15
To: uk-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] UBNs - ARRL DX CW


On 26/06/2012 16:07, Tony G4NBS wrote:

> Maybe thats the reason we still exchange proper reports on VHF. At 
> least
you
> know when a QSO is real or not....

A "real" QSO is, generally, the two-way on-air exchange and acknowledgement
of callsigns.

In contest QSOs, it's not always necessary to exchange both callsigns -
when, for example, you call a running station, you give only your own
callsign.

As for reports, there's no such thing as a "proper report".  They are all
subjective, depending on such factors as power, antennas, receiver
sensitivity, propagation, and whether you're feeling generous or want to
please, or annoy, the other station.

That's one reason why no reports whatsoever are required on QSLs for ARRL
awards, including DXCC on VHF. When QSOs are submitted to LOTW, reports, if
any, are discarded.  In ARRL DX, RSTs are not cross-checked - they are
simply redundant.

To anyone who feels better, or superior, by giving a "proper report" in
contests, I say go ahead - I log only 59(9) when I know the
contest onganisers don't care.   :-)

It seems to me the only reports with any value are comparitive reports, such
as those provided by the Reverse Beacon Network - showing the signal to
noise ratio in decibels at the receiving site.


73,
Paul EI5DI






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