[UK-CONTEST] Short Contest Calls.

[Bob Henderson]

Why not adopt an alternate framework defining a list of events in which SCC
may not be used.  Such a framework would defend the"fair to all" status of
RSGB events without unnecessarily limiting SCC use in International events.

Bob, 5B4AGN

On 3 October 2012 09:06, Clive GM3POI <gm3poi2 at btinternet.com> wrote:

>         Well Don I can't see any problem in the system being reviewed and
> expanded. The world has now moved on and short calls are with us  every
> day.
> It would just be nice to have the option of using one if I wanted for
> example in the SAC or UBA or any of the Russian Contests.
>         Perhaps the idea of vanity calls should be investigated again,
> however from a numbers point of view there does not appear to be any
> shortage of available callsigns and there will also be turn over.
>         It very much appears that just about everything that appears on
> this
> reflector is  immediately viewed in negative terms rather than constructive
> discussion.  Or have I got that wrong.?
> 73 Clive GM3POI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK-Contest [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Don
> Field
> Sent: 02 October 2012 17:05
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> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Short Contest Calls.
>
> That was then Brian.
>
> But I am puzzled by Clive's posting. As an ex-law enforcement officer,
> Clive knows that there must be some sort of framework. Asking for the use
> of SCCs for "all contests" is meaningless (and, in any case, this isn't the
> place to ask for it). What are "all contests". Does it include US State QSO
> Parties? Does it include the FOC Marathon or QSO Parties (which are not
> actually billed as contests)? Does it include the GM3POI memorial contest,
> which runs all year on all bands (or could)?
>
> So, either it becomes a general vanity call (which, in effect, is what has
> happened in Scandinavia and elsewhere) or there has to be some sort of
> definition. Which there already is - in the past the question has been
> asked "What contests should be on the list". As far as I know, modern-day
> OFCOM has never refused any (frankloy, they wouldn't know one from
> another). So if Clive wanted, say, the Stew Perry events, the Oceania
> contest or whatever, I suspect he only has to ask (the appropriate
> person(s)).
>
> The only other consideration is that, I am led to understand (and SJJ may
> well recall), that there was a concern about allowing SCCs in domestic HF
> events would not go down well with the more casual entrants who didn't
> want, or didn't have, SCCs. Whether that argument still applies, who knows?
>
> Don G3XTT
>
> On 2 October 2012 16:56, brian coyne <g4odv at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > It never did make sense to me why the scc's were limited to major
> contests
> >
> > I don't recall how the Regulator was named in those days but I do know
> > that RSGB had to go cap in hand and tugging at the forelock to ask the
> > slightest favour.
> >
> > Maybe RSGB (HFCC) thought that was the most they dare ask for! Chris
> (SJJ)
> > may know the answer to that one.
> >
> > 73  Brian 5B4AIZ.
> >
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > > It is now 16 years since short calls were first made available. To
> > > date 33 individual and a total of about 180 calls have been issued out
> of
> > > 520 available.
> > > Is it not now well overdue  that we now  be allowed to use these
> > > callsigns in ANY Contest. Listening on the bands in any smaller
> contests
> > > shows the regular use in other Countries of short calls.
> > > I am sure that Ofcom would be open to such a request, and it should
> > > be routine for the CC to encourage their use in in Many of  their
> > > Contests.
> > > I cannot see the point of holding a contest call that you cannot use
> > > in any Contest.
> > > 73 Clive GM3POI
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