[UK-CONTEST] Short Contest Calls.

Wed Oct 3 07:09:27 EDT 2012

But that doesn't address the issue of "

On 3 October 2012 11:05, Clive GM3POI <gm3poi2 at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Yes Bob that would be the way to do it. 73 Clive GM3POI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK-Contest [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Bob
> Henderson
> Sent: 03 October 2012 10:18
> To: UK Contest
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Short Contest Calls.
>
> Why not adopt an alternate framework defining a list of events in which SCC
> may not be used.  Such a framework would defend the"fair to all" status of
> RSGB events without unnecessarily limiting SCC use in International events.
>
> Bob, 5B4AGN
>
> On 3 October 2012 09:06, Clive GM3POI <gm3poi2 at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >         Well Don I can't see any problem in the system being reviewed and
> > expanded. The world has now moved on and short calls are with us  every
> > day.
> > It would just be nice to have the option of using one if I wanted for
> > example in the SAC or UBA or any of the Russian Contests.
> >         Perhaps the idea of vanity calls should be investigated again,
> > however from a numbers point of view there does not appear to be any
> > shortage of available callsigns and there will also be turn over.
> >         It very much appears that just about everything that appears on
> > this
> > reflector is  immediately viewed in negative terms rather than
> constructive
> > discussion.  Or have I got that wrong.?
> > 73 Clive GM3POI
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: UK-Contest [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > Don
> > Field
> > Sent: 02 October 2012 17:05
> > To: UK Contest
> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Short Contest Calls.
> >
> > That was then Brian.
> >
> > But I am puzzled by Clive's posting. As an ex-law enforcement officer,
> > Clive knows that there must be some sort of framework. Asking for the use
> > of SCCs for "all contests" is meaningless (and, in any case, this isn't
> the
> > place to ask for it). What are "all contests". Does it include US State
> QSO
> > Parties? Does it include the FOC Marathon or QSO Parties (which are not
> > actually billed as contests)? Does it include the GM3POI memorial
> contest,
> > which runs all year on all bands (or could)?
> >
> > So, either it becomes a general vanity call (which, in effect, is what
> has
> > happened in Scandinavia and elsewhere) or there has to be some sort of
> > definition. Which there already is - in the past the question has been
> > asked "What contests should be on the list". As far as I know, modern-day
> > OFCOM has never refused any (frankloy, they wouldn't know one from
> > another). So if Clive wanted, say, the Stew Perry events, the Oceania
> > contest or whatever, I suspect he only has to ask (the appropriate
> > person(s)).
> >
> > The only other consideration is that, I am led to understand (and SJJ may
> > well recall), that there was a concern about allowing SCCs in domestic HF
> > events would not go down well with the more casual entrants who didn't
> > want, or didn't have, SCCs. Whether that argument still applies, who
> knows?
> >
> > Don G3XTT
> >
> > On 2 October 2012 16:56, brian coyne <g4odv at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > It never did make sense to me why the scc's were limited to major
> > contests
> > >
> > > I don't recall how the Regulator was named in those days but I do know
> > > that RSGB had to go cap in hand and tugging at the forelock to ask the
> > > slightest favour.
> > >
> > > Maybe RSGB (HFCC) thought that was the most they dare ask for! Chris
> > (SJJ)
> > > may know the answer to that one.
> > >
> > > 73  Brian 5B4AIZ.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > It is now 16 years since short calls were first made available. To
> > > > date 33 individual and a total of about 180 calls have been issued
> out
> > of
> > > > 520 available.
> > > > Is it not now well overdue  that we now  be allowed to use these
> > > > callsigns in ANY Contest. Listening on the bands in any smaller
> > contests
> > > > shows the regular use in other Countries of short calls.
> > > > I am sure that Ofcom would be open to such a request, and it should
> > > > be routine for the CC to encourage their use in in Many of  their
> > > > Contests.
> > > > I cannot see the point of holding a contest call that you cannot use
> > > > in any Contest.
> > > > 73 Clive GM3POI
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