[UK-CONTEST] Train of thought leading up to ... 144MHz CW

[David]

Steve

Think hard, the majority of stations worked are in UK. The point scoring
system is based on distance. You are in the centre of all those Gs and guess
what points per QSO is much much lower than someone on the edge of that
group.  We therefore work a lot more QSOs but get a lot less points per QSO.
The scoring system is working against someone located in the centre of
activity. QED we cannot win this contest from our current location.

Moving location is not an option so moving contest is unless a different
scoring system is used. A pint per QSO times square multiplier would produce
from VARC perspective a fairer system.

73 David G3YYD

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From: UK-Contest [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
STEVE JONES
Sent: 09 October 2012 21:01
To: David; UK-Contest at contesting. com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Train of thought leading up to ... 144MHz CW

David
 
If we all took that attitude there would be little to work on the vhf bands.
I contest on both lf/hf and vhf - the challenges are different on each. I
like the challenge of 2m, 6m, 10m and 160m, even when I have little chance
of winning. Try 6m or 2m contesting from the highlands of Scotland if you
want a real challenge!
 
If as you state you have a good site, and best 2m equip, then I fail to see
how the scoring system can penalise you?  You just need to make the most of
the decent site and decent equip and work further distance rather than
relying on working lots of shorter distance contacts perhaps? 
 
Yes its a lot of effort and hard work -  but worth it when you get the
reward (from time to time).  It was my first time out in vhf nfd this summer
and I learnt loads helping to put together the 4m and 6m stations and
operating the 2m station  with a large system I could never hope of putting
up at my current bottom of the valley location.  The horizontal rain on the
Friday didnt help but the effort was worth it - both in terms of the
experience, learning, and moving up into second place for the new contest
group. This weekend I introduced a couple of the team members to hf
contesting - no hope of wining 21/28 with bottom of valley qth and small
tribander at 15m but it was great fun, a learning event, and worth the
effort. 
 
Don't give up - just try harder OM
 
73
 
Steve GW0GEI @GW2OP/P 
 

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 From: David <g3yyd at btinternet.com>
To: "UK-Contest at contesting. com" <UK-Contest at contesting.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 20:23
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Train of thought leading up to ... 144MHz CW
  
Tim

We have a site and none of us fancy taking all our kit to the Essex/Kent
coast just to win a contest. Much rather use that time and effort to enter
multiple contests.

The kit we use on 2m is probably the best there is on the band as seen by
taking the best ODX on 2m. The location is the highest this end of the
Chilterns. We worked many more QSOs than first place but because we are in
middle England less distance and therefore less points per QSO. 

The only way we can ever win VHFNFD would be to change the scoring system so
that QSO points are not determined by distance. QED why try and push an
immovable object up a hill best thing is to leave the contest until the
scoring system changes. There are plenty of contests we can enter so we will
choose ones that provide a better scoring system for Verulam's situation
than VHFNFD.

73 David G3YYD

-----Original Message-----
From: UK-Contest [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Hugill
Sent: 09 October 2012 15:49
To: uk-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Train of thought leading up to ... 144MHz CW

David,
Verulam has a long history of success - don't give up.
Change something.
Perhaps change your site - go to the Welsh Borders, go to the South Coast,
go to East Anglia.
Perhaps put up a different antenna system.
I don't know...
If we all give up because we can't win, Wexford will win it every year !

73
Tim   FJK
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