[UK-CONTEST] What's the point?

Bob Henderson bob at 5b4agn.net
Tue Oct 23 11:33:08 EDT 2012


Ken

CQ now have seven SDR monitoring sites located around the world.  Each
apparently has the capacity to record all activity across all six HF
contest bands during the full 48 hours of a contest.

This does not mean every line of each submitted log will be compared
against the recordings made.

What it does mean is CQ have the ability to interrogate these recordings
where unanswered questions arise relating to logs from entrants in
contention for an award.  If for example, the committee suspects an entrant
has corrected busted calls after the event, they now have the means to
check it out.

Bob, 5B4AGN

On 23 October 2012 15:09, Ken <ken.g3lvp at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Today it's only one small step from "checking" for "typos" to running
> programs to search for QSO's made on different bands in the same contest,
> previous logs, databases,  QRZ.com etc. This may give a good idea whether a
> callsign has been entered correctly or has been misread or mis-typed, this
> particularly applies to 'uniques'.
>
> The same applies to checking & correcting locators in RSGB VHF contests
> especially when scores claimed by others can be examined. Making changes to
> an entry should not be permitted once it has been submitted as they can at
> present.
>
> Since meaningful signal reports on HF have been abandoned for universal
> 59(9')'s the only part of may contest exchanges that (probably) can't be
> checked post contest is the serial number and even this doesn't apply to
> CQWW or ARRL DX contests when serial numbers aren't exchanged.
>
> This is despite RSGB VHF (but not HF?) ruleswhich state that "All
> information must be copied off air at the time of the QSO and on the band
> in use and databases must not be used to fill in missing information and
> for CQWW " Post-contest correcting of call signs by using any database,
> recordings or confirming QSO's is not allowed", how the adjudicators of
> contests know that these (and other) rules are adhered to is a mystery to
> me.
>
> So what's the point of adjudicating on the basis of callsigns (& locators)
> when in many cases it's possible check & correct these after the contest? A
> log with few or no errors in all probability has been subject to some level
> of post contest checking whatever the rules say.
>
> Anti-contesters might just say what's the point?
>
> 73...
>
> Ken
>
> G3LVp
>
>
>
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>
>
> Bob, the actual contest, ie exchanging QSOs, might be over but it is
> intelligent amd mncessary to chcek through the log to corerct ant tyopos,
> as you
> can see by this incirrected email. Back in the days of paper logs we
> positevly encouraged entrants to rewrite their logs top amke sure they
> doidn't
> lose points uncesarily. Paper and pencil have ben replaced by a keyborad
> and it is wrong to assume taht someone who was adept and writing are equally
> adept at typing.
>
> I will continue to put my contest log ointo Excel when convenient and to
> do various sorst and cahecks. I am sure you wouldn't expaect me to always
> send emnails or write reporst etc like this one?
>
> 73 Chris G3sjj
>
>
>
>
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