[UK-CONTEST] RE - CQ Contest Rules.

Tue Oct 23 16:13:20 EDT 2012

The rule change that we are discussing here ad nauseum is about 
***post-contest log-changes***.
The definition of Assisted and Non-Assisted is elsewhere.
Mine's a pint of bitter!
73 de Roger/G3SXW.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Richard Allisette
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:58 PM
To: Roger Western
Cc: Contest Reflector UK
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] RE - CQ Contest Rules.

Hello again Roger,
Well I did try to RTFM and unless I am even more senile than the XYL says I 
am, I think I can still use any sort of database to check my log provided it 
is within the 48 hours of the contest. So I could legally use a database to 
check call signs in the last few hours of the contest if I wish.
That was what I was on about.
Time for a beer!

73 GU4CHY

On 23 Oct 2012, at 19:49, Roger Western <g3sxw at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Dear Puzzled,
> Just RTFM ! ! !
> It is permitted to change logged QSOs during and/or after the contest - 
> BUT only if you know that you inadvertently logged something wrong which 
> you did not transmit. See below!
> 73 de Roger/G3SXW.
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Allisette
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:44 PM
> To: Roger Western
> Cc: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] RE - CQ Contest Rules.
>
> Roger,
> I am hoping to do 10m SBHP in the CW leg this year. Let us suppose that 
> the band folds at 20.00z. I can then do any log alterations I think that 
> need to be done in the four hours of the contest period remaining.
> Am I reading this right? Seems daft but could a future strategy include 
> making sure you finish before the contest period ends to "cleanse" your 
> log - you might save more points than bashing on till midnight?
>
> Puzzled of Guernsey,
>
> GU4CHY
>
> On 23 Oct 2012, at 19:23, Roger Western <g3sxw at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Look, chaps, let's all stop mis-stating what has been published. See:
>> http://www.cqww.com/rules_2012changes.htm
>>
>> It is perfectly clear. But you do need to spend two minutes reading it!
>> Yes, it makes perfect sense, Brian (and others today)!
>> 73 de Roger/G3SXW.
>>
>> NEW RULE:
>> CQWW Rule III.13: Post-contest correcting of call signs by using any 
>> database, recordings or confirming QSOs is not allowed.
>>
>> EXPLANATION:
>> When the contest period ends, do not use any sort of database, local or 
>> remote, to review and then modify the callsigns in your log prior to 
>> submission.
>>
>> Use of QRZ.com, DX Cluster, RBN files, other call sign databases, friends’ 
>> or club logs, etc., are considered to be other data sources and are not 
>> allowed for post-contest call correction.
>>
>> Having friends or experts who were not “the entrant” review the log also 
>> “counts” as a database (not permitted).
>>
>> A recording of your own contest effort, whether digital or analog, is 
>> considered to be a database, even if you made the recording yourself.
>>
>> Q: “After the contest I noticed a typing mistake. What should I do?”
>>
>> You have to determine whether the call sign you logged is the call sign 
>> you sent during the QSO in question (see rule XII.2 below for more 
>> information). If you are certain that this is a logging error, AND that 
>> what you logged does not match what you actually sent, then make the 
>> correction. If the committee’s SDR file shows that what you submitted on 
>> your log does not match what you sent during the contest exchange, you 
>> are in violation of the rules.
>>
>> Your decision must be based purely on your inspection of the log. You may 
>> not use any database or other resources to review your log
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: brian coyne
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 6:33 PM
>> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] RE - CQ Contest Rules.
>>
>>
>>
>>> p.s. what's SCP?
>>> G3LVP
>>
>> Ken
>> SCP (SuperCheck Partial) is a database file which can be incorporated 
>> into your contest logging file.
>> The database is compiled by scrutinising logs from previous contests to 
>> extract the callsigns of active contesting stations. On the CQ Contest 
>> Reflector we see requests from the compilers of this database after just 
>> about every major (and not so major) contest requesting logs to capture 
>> any new calls which may stray into the fold.
>>
>> This database can be called into a window to check callsigns the 
>> contester is not sure about during the event - hence my comment about 
>> guessing games.
>>
>> As for the comment about using my full call - well, imagine if they 
>> cannot get just 3 characters/letters correct how much more trouble would 
>> I get using a combination of six!
>>
>> So, because it is not barred by the rules (in fact it is welcomed and 
>> used by many) it is ok to cheat legally whereas to make an alteration of 
>> a typo, marked at the time of making it, at a later time after the 
>> contest is now regarded as cheating! Make sense to you? - not to me.
>>
>> I will repeat what I wrote earlier . The correction is  what I actually 
>> sent, as per the rules, not something that I made up, guessed at or 
>> referred to another source to discover.
>>
>> Sometimes reasonableness and common sense get left behind.
>>
>> 73  Brian 5B4AIZ / C4Z -
>>
>>
>>
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