[VHFcontesting] Get A Grip!

[Russ Pillsbury]

This comes under the heading of "don't ask".  Whoever told you that was
making sure that his answer could not come back to bite him (CYA).  But it
is ridiculous to say that a transmit only tracker is "assistance" because
someone else might see it and use it to know where a station is.

Using it for that purpose could possibly be a problem, but "might"???  That
is like a law saying you can't use a 250 hp engine in your car because you
"might" exceed the speed limit.

And so what if they do know where a rover is?  They still don't know if they
are even on the air, much less what band, frequency, antenna heading, etc.
And other stations do not use the tracker to contact the tracked station and
make a sked, etc.  If it should disqualify anyone, it should be the station
who uses the information to find you, not the person with the tracker.

I think the rules already cover this situation, the station that uses spots
on a dx-cluster is considered a multiop station rather than single-op.  If
the rover was also monitoring APRS to see where other rovers are, maybe he
would also be a multi-op.

73, Russ K2TXB

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacob Tennant [mailto:k8jwt at ntelos.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:04 PM
> To: Russ Pillsbury; KA0TP at aol.com; kb1grs at joelweber.org;
> vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu; VHFcontesting at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Get A Grip!
>
>
> Along the lines of GPS/Rover ops.  I was going to run a APRS
> tracker in the
> rover so that my wife could track me/see where I was at.
>
> However I was told by the ARRL contest sevtion that it would be considered
> the same as packet assistance during a contest and would be disqualified
> since others could see my location.
>
> I had even setup a TX only tracker so that I couldn't/wouldn't see any
> messages that was sent to my station.
>
> NEW IDEA!!! Run the tracker when moving & shut it down when
> stopped. As I am
> going to be a Stop & Shoot rover with beam antennas.
>
> Wonder if this will still be found to be a "no-no"?
>
> Jacob Tennant  K8JWT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russ Pillsbury" <k2txb at dxcc.com>
> To: <KA0TP at aol.com>; <kb1grs at joelweber.org>; <vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu>;
> <VHFcontesting at contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [VHFcontesting] Get A Grip!
>
>
> > Maybe having a GPS should be mandatory for all rovers (TIC).
> That way if
> > you get stranded at the end of a dirt road at least you can tell the
> rescue
> > squad where to look for you.  And as a side issue there would
> be no excuse
> > for giving out the wrong grid square, and no problem with distance
> scoring.
> >
> > 73, Russ K2TXB
> >
> > *TIC=tounge in cheek
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu
[mailto:owner-vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu]On
> > Behalf Of KA0TP at aol.com
> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:26 PM
> > To: kb1grs at joelweber.org; vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu;
> > VHFcontesting at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Get A Grip!
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 9/5/02 10:29:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > kb1grs at joelweber.org writes:
> > << Another thing to consider, if requiring participants to have a GPS is
> >  undesireable, would be to allow five digit zip codes to be submitted,
> >  and 6 digit grids could be estimated from that.  People could still be
> >  strongly encouraged to submit accurate 6 digit grid square where
> >  they're available.
> >   73,
> >  Joel
> >  KB1GRS
> >   >>
> >
> > From the comfort of my home, here is a link to a map of the area
> > I plan on
> > operating from.  Zip Codes?  I'm luicky to know what County I'm in.
> > This clearly demonstrates why the VHF contest will NOT be equal
> > across the
> > country. Regional is as equal as we can make  it.....
> > South Fork Mountain, 4800' elevation.
> >  <A
HREF="http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=10&n=4993681&e=560182&s=200&u=2">
> > TopoZone - The Web's Topographic Map</A>
> > http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=10&n=4993681&e=560182&s=200&u=2
> >
> > Thomas D. Popp
> > KAØTP
> > Clackamas, Oregon - CN85qk
> >
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