[VHFcontesting] RE: VHFcontesting Digest, Vol 12, Issue 21
Rusty Boling
deputyb112 at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 18 12:57:10 EST 2003
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> 1.
> One last one clarification [was: A suggestion for LimitingMultiOps]
> (Ev Tupis (W2EV))
> 2. Power Supplies for sale (Lee Scott - AA1YN)
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>Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:12:52 -0500
>From: "Ev Tupis (W2EV)" <w2ev at arrl.net>
>To: vhfcontesting at contesting.com
>Subject: [VHFcontesting]
> One last one clarification [was: A suggestion for LimitingMultiOps]
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>"Kenneth E. Harker" wrote:
> > Ev's position: We should occupy spectrum through radiosport for the sake
>of
> > occupying spectrum.
> >
> > My position: We should occupy spectrum through radiosport for the sake
>of
> > sport.
>
>No, this is NOT my position, Kenneth. My position is ... ready for this
>(?)...
>
>We should occupy spectrum through radiosport for the sake of sport AND the
>rules
>for the sport should NEVER discourage me from running as many bands as one
>can
>muster.
>
>The Limited MultiOp category (as it is defined today) does us a
>dis-service.
>
>Ev, W2EV
>
>--
>PropNET: If the band is open and no one is TXing, does anyone hear it?
>HamIM : Messaging the all-ham way, find Rovers as they go to play.
> That HamIM, that HamIM -- I'm sure you'll like that HamIM.
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>Ask me about either. I'll send a URL and you can join the fun, too!
Personally I feel that the the limited multi-op class is great. We all know
how expensive it is, even with pooled resources, to get so many bands.
Speaking as a relatively young ham with a family that I have to provide for
and having to work 6 months between weekends off, I have to take vacation
time off just to be involved in a contest. I think we all know that in
order to be a competitive group it takes a whole lot of money! When I think
of the major VHF/UHF'ers that I know, I think of people that are more well
off than the average ham. It takes so much more equipment, more expensive
equipment, expensive feedline, expensive antennas for each band, etc to be a
big station. I feel like HF contesting is 75% operating effort with 25%
equipment. I feel like VHF/UHF contesting is 75% equipment and 25%
operating effort. There is no doubt that you can put an excellent operator
at a pretty poor hf station and he can still make lots of contacts and even
be a little competitive, however you put that same operator at a poor vhf
staion and he can not even come close to competing with a big vhf station.
VHF/UHF contesting is almost always going to be dominated by the hams that
have lots of money or by larger clubs that have lots of resources. That is
just the way it is. I am not complaining about it. One reason why I like
the idea of a limited multi-op class is that is gives the smaller
clubs/groups a chance at being competitive within their class without
spending every dime they have on heliax and transverters for all the other
bands that they can't afford to get on, plus there is such a small amount of
people to talk to on the higher bands in the more rural areas, it is not
worth the expense. Around here you are lucky to hear 5 stations a day
between 6M and 2M ssb. If everyone is so concerned about occupying the
bands then there needs to be more activity daily, not just 4-5 times per
year and only during a contest. I know personally that I like the QRP
portable class or just a portable low power and highpower class in general.
I may not have an elaborate setup, but I can do ok from a mountain top.
With VHF/UHF weak signal stuff being so costly to get into in the 1st place
and you just don't see a whole lot of decent vhf/uhf equipment on the used
market suitable for weak signal work, it make it cost prohibitive. Again
the VHF/UHF bigger guns that I know are not hurting for money and they have
accumulated their gear over 20-30 years. Now if we could only petition more
companies to make more equipment at a reasonalble price for 222, 900, 1296,
and more companys to make less expensive heliax, we would be doing super.
73
Rusty
AE4BK
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>Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:47:12 -0500
>From: Lee Scott - AA1YN <aa1yn at aa1yn.com>
>To: vhfcontesting at contesting.com, microwave at wa1mba.org
>Subject: [VHFcontesting] Power Supplies for sale
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>For Sale
>
>I acquired a few Lamda-EMI power supplies recently. They are being offered
>on a first come first serve basis.
>
>These power supplies are SCR input regulated with good RFI filtering. I
>have tried a couple with my IC-746 and have found no interference. You can
>see the specs at http://www.lambda-emi.com/product_html/tcrpower.htm.
>
>Here's the list:
>
>Quantity Type Volts Amps In V Panel
>1 TCR 0-40 45 120 5 1/4
>4 TCR 0-10 165 120 5 1/4
>1 TCR 0-20 90 120 5 1/4
>6 TCR 0-20 30 120 3 1/2
>2 TCR 0-10 75 120 3 1/2
>1 HCR 0-40 8 120 5 1/4
>1 HCR 0-80 3 120 5 1/4
>3 pair HCR 0-25 15 120 5 1/4
>
>All units are rack mount. The HCR units are two power supplies on a single
>rack. These units were used in a semiconductor burn-in system. Due to the
>weight, I will not ship them so you must plan on picking them up at my QTH
>just north of Manchester NH. Similar units are selling on EBay for as much
>as $350.00 - yours for only $150 each or $150 for HCR pair. I have a copy
>of the TCR manual complements of Lambda but the HCR manuals are not
>available.
>
>
>
>Lee Scott - AA1YN
>Home of the VHF & Up Register http://www.aa1yn.com/vhf
>Hooksett, NH
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