[VHFcontesting] ARRL kills VHF, Should we let them?

[James Hayes]

John,
Not a bad idea, but if they receive no logs then it will reinfore their
efforts to get rid of the contesting I should think. (Thinking like a
politician, ahem.) We have to use their game plans to our benefit if we are
to succeed at keeping the contesting. There is another way using that
strategy would work though, and maybe get our line scores back into the QST
magazine. Retain our ARRL membership, WITHOUT their magazine. I mean most of
us are computer savy now 'a days, and we could find all kinds of
advertisments and websites to lure us with new products, so why do we need
another 'ad' magazine to do that for us? I don't know about most people but
the website line scores are crap to say the least, and the only good part I
see is the soapbox where we can truly be seen and heard for our efforts.

Jim, N2YEV
FN34gs, Plattsburgh, NY
Six Club #1663, SMIRK #6480
jhayes9424 at charter.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Geiger" <johngeig at yahoo.com>
To: "James Hayes" <jhayes9424 at charter.net>; <vhfcontesting at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] ARRL kills VHF, Should we let them?


> SHould they go through and pass these stupid changes,
> I will participate in the June 2005 VHF contest, but
> will not submit a log, and will write the ARRL and
> state why I am not submitting a log.  I will also urge
> all other hams to do the same.  Maybe if the number of
> logs submitted really declines they will rethink these
> assine changes.
>
> 73s John NE0P
>
>
>
> --- James Hayes <jhayes9424 at charter.net> wrote:
> > QUESTION:
> > Regarding this recent thread...why should we let
> > them? Aren't  there are
> > other  groups out there that could support our VHF
> > contesting efforts? Why
> > not try and solicit them?
> > Other than that why not email everyone we know who
> > does the VHF contesting
> > and have them email the h#$@ our of the ARRL until
> > the take notice that we
> > don't want our fun to go away.
> > Ya know...politics really suck the life out of all
> > of us, but it shouldn't
> > be a part of amateur radio in any form except to
> > work as a liason between us
> > and the FCC. I get so tired of everyone whining
> > about this cause and that
> > cause using 'political correctness' as an excuse to
> > get stupid bills passed
> > that won't do anyone any good...like Megan's Law, I
> > can't see where one
> > person has been saved or even warned about those
> > predators.
> > I guess what I'm trying to say is we all have to
> > make our voices heard, as
> > they are ELECTED OFFICIALS aren't they? And as
> > elected officials they are
> > supposed to do as we recommend. Because without US
> > there IS no Amateur
> > Radio. Lets stay a band of brothers and sisters,
> > "...united we stand divided
> > we fall."
> > Anyway, enough said for this round...what are your
> > views, comments
> > questions, flames etc???
> >
> > Jim, N2YEV
> > FN34gs, Plattsburgh, NY
> > Six Club #1663, SMIRK #6480
> > jhayes9424 at charter.net
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Geiger" <johngeig at yahoo.com>
> > To: "George Fremin III" <geoiii at kkn.net>;
> > <vhfcontesting at contesting.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 9:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] ARRL kills VHF, Should
> > we let them?
> >
> >
> > > Oh they will definitely save 2 meter FM and
> > packet.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- George Fremin III <geoiii at kkn.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > IF the ARRL decides to end VHF contesting as
> > we
> > > > know it after this
> > > >
> > > > I am pretty sure the ARRL will be selling off
> > all of
> > > > our bands (with
> > > > the exception of 160 meters) and taking the
> > proceeds
> > > > and have a keg
> > > > party at ARRL HQ where they will burn the Wouff
> > Hong
> > > > as part of a
> > > > satanic ritual.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > George Fremin III - K5TR
> > > > geoiii at kkn.net
> > > > http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
> > > >
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