[VHFcontesting] 50.125 ..yes, but what about 144.200?

Kenneth E. Harker kenharker at kenharker.com
Mon Jun 4 10:47:19 EDT 2007

On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 06:56:49AM -0700, Duane - N9DG wrote:
> --- Tim  Coad <timcoad at excite.com> wrote:
> > 
> > There might be a problem with 50.125... but the one that
> > bugs me is the problem where people are glued to 144.200
> > during the contest.
> Yes I see this a lot and I don't understand why people think
> that clinging to .200 is competitive. It hurts your score to
> do so.

This may or may not be true, depending on the level of activity in
your part of the country.  In parts of the country where the 
population density on VHF+ is not so dense, the QRM from sharing 
a channel with other stations may not be as big a problem as 
missing other stations because you're on different frequencies from
one another in the limited time when you're both on the air or
both have propagation to one another or are pointing toward one 

I've tried the experiment of only calling CQ off 144.200 before,
and here in STX that made a huge negative impact on my two meter 

So much of VHF contesting is a local experience...

> Here is an analysis that I did of my January 2004 log that
> shows that ~50% of my Q's and mults were made >10 kHz away
> from .200:
> http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/VHFcontesting/2004-04/msg00022.html
> > Here in the SF bay area you can call CQ for 1/2 hour on
> > 144.190 or 144.210 and not have a SINGLE answer...then move
> > to 144.200 and get a pile up during the contest.
> Not quite that bad here in the upper midwest but this
> situation is frustratingly common. And it isn't the serious
> contest competitors that are guilty of this. It is the
> casual, and newer ops who tend to be most guilty of clinging
> to .200.
> What I'll do when I can't get any takers on a freq removed
> from .200 is call on .200 and announce that I'm at freq
> "144.xxx" and then only answer on that frequency. Works
> generally OK. I even do that frequently during band
> oppenings. That is how I made the ~1100 mile tropo Q's to the
> Tampa area last Novemeber. Many of those who clung to .200
> didn't make the long haul Q, they were still fighting an
> unwinnable QRM situation on .200. For them the 1000-1100 mile
> DX was buried under the 600 mile DX.
> > 
> > We all have VFOs dont we...? It is like the "good" old days
> > with 4 qsos going on at a time on 146.52...
> Good old days???? ;)
> > 
> > And tell me, why do some people work a new station and move
> > them to the calling frequency on another band...if you are
> > moving a station, I would not move them to 50.125 or
> > 144.200, if you do chances are you are moving them on top
> > of 2 or 3 QSOs already in progress...
> Yes indeed, that's another puzzler. I hear people with their
> brand new "all mode, all bands in a box" radios doing this a
> lot. They meet up on a repeater somewhere and then decide to
> give VHF SSB a shot. They then pick a calling frequency as
> thier first choice to go to.
> > 
> > But yes, I think I like the advice someone gave, we need to
> > lighten up and be happy to hear people on the bands...I'd
> > rather hear 4 simultaneuos Q's on 144.200 than none. If
> > thats the way it HAS to be...
> I'd say it is "attempts" at 4 simultanous Q's. Often they
> don't suceed thanks to the QRM. 
> Duane
> N9DG
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Kenneth E. Harker WM5R
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