[VHFcontesting] APRS Comment

[Rogers, Ron]

So guys,
 
Does that also say that everyone must cease the common practice of notifying everyone on this reflector prior to a contest via e-mail your intended grid route, actual intended locations, and times of operation in those grids ?
 
I really don't see a difference with the notification of location method chosen......... maybe just an "intended" verses "actual"  You still are not "manufacturing" contacts which was the original intent of the phase " in the spirit of the contest".
 
How about multi-ops or anyone else that announces their planned location, complete with 6 digit grid locator ??  Sorta tells everyone where to point their antennas during a contest doesn't it ?
 
Are we saying each contest is supposed to be a completely new "contacts by discovery only" sorta thing ?  
 
Then I guess my database from past contests indicating who I previously contacted, on which band, with an antenna heading of xxx degrees would be considered illegal. 
 
Ron
WW8RR
 

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From: John Geiger [mailto:johngeig at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thu 3/1/2007 8:43 PM
To: Rogers, Ron; ray at w9ray.org; vhfcontesting at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] APRS Comment



Wouldn't that then put you in the situation of
spotting yourself, similar to posting yourself on the
internet cluster.  If you did that, it would move you
to the multiop category.


--- "Rogers, Ron" <RR124640 at ncr.com> wrote:

> Ray,
> I don't think he is referring to using APRS for
> actually making a contest contact. I think he is
> referring to using APRS to simply report real-time
> positioning and locations of the rover so you can
> attempt contact with them on another frequency.
> 
> Ron
> WW8RR
> 
> 
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vhfcontesting-bounces at contesting.com on behalf
> of Ray J
> Sent: Thu 3/1/2007 8:16 PM
> To: vhfcontesting at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] APRS Comment
>
>
>
> you cannot use regular aprs on 144.390.. because it
> uses repeaters..
> (digipeaters)  and internet relays..
>
> I don't see how it would be considered illegal to
> use regular simplex
> packet using the same software/firmware as regular
> aprs systems.. 
> minus the active repeaters and the internet..and
> not on 144.39
>
> its a simple 2 way simplex qso..
>
>
> Ray J
> W9RAY
>
>
> Dave Agsten wrote:
> > Right On Ron,
> >  
> >   Also, it would nice if the ARRL & CQ opened
> their eyes and allowed APRS to be used in the
> VHF/UHF contests. Many, many times while roving I
> hear stations that don't have their beams pointed in
> my direction. I call and call with no response or
> they hear me weakly and don't think to rotate their
> antennas. It ends up wasting valuable contesting
> time when, if APRS were allowed, permanent stations
> would be able to see Rovers, rotate their antennas,
> and generate more contacts and grids in less time.
> Also, Rovers could see other Rovers and not operate
> on top of each other. Rather than going to the same
> grid, Rovers could choose to activate a different
> grid based upon knowing where other Rovers were
> operating from. It's a win win situation. I've never
> figured out how the use of APRS is much different
> than knowing where one permanent station is located
> from another and pointing your antennas accordingly.
> >  
> >   And, as far as "waste" of spectrum is concerned,
> I see more waste from some very high powered,
> over-driven stations in every VHF/UHF contest.
> >  
> >   73,
> >   Dave N8AG (ex W4TXS)
> >
> >      
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