[VHFcontesting] KK6MCs figures

[frank bechdoldt]

KK6MC gave a partially detailed list of the results of the grid cirling team.
 
My question is this
 
what percentage of those team members scores are generated from working each other?
The percentage of the QSOS with all the members of the roving team including the guy who travelled with but did not turn in a log as per the soap box posting.
What is the difference in in multipliers if you discount the multipliers given by team mates?
Please don't make the statements you made unless you consider the real facts.
 
If 50 percent of the multipliers came from team mates and 50 percent of qso points came from team mates then the score of qsos not made by line of sight across an arbitrary line or intersection is roughly 1/2 of that of the man who came into 2nd place unless he was a cirler too.  Even if its only 30 percent self generated points and 30 percent self generated grids it would be less than the man who came in 2nd.
 
YOU DO NOT GET IT. WHAT THEY DO IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DO and the arrl did not fix it.
 
Only about 1 perent of all my contatcts ever came from someone I could see with my own eyeballs ayt the time I contacted them. I have never claimed a multiplier that way.  That one percent would be curious hams that might come to my opperating site to se my rig.
 
The intent was to put to the team rovers in thier own class so they could be included and could compete against other teams or unconvential practices like multi op rovers.  THEY IGNORED THE INTENT.  
 
As a rover I am 100 percent sure if you remove the self generated QSOS and multipliers you will see what thier efforts reaLLY MEAN TO THE REST OF THE vhf COMUNITY.
 
Which rovers worked the most unique calls? if its not the winners then there is something wrong with the system. What other ARRL contest can you work less competitors for more points?  
 
If you show me that the winning limited and classic rovers less than 20 percent of thier QSO points came from non team mates and less than 20 percent of their multipliers came from their team mates, I will drop this issue.
 
To say the fact they one 3 different divisions to post a lower score in the unlimited division is BUNK. They are the only people doing this STUFF on such a large scale.  So with ethics like theirs its a no brainer to enter all three catagories.
 
Prove me wrong with all the facts. Not the ones you like.
 
Fact is that some good comes out of their Roves.
There is 2 types of Roving, teams and non teams, when we ignore the stated intent and hide behind the skirts of the flawed rules we create controversy.
IF they did not brag about it they would not show how braisen they are to the rest of the serious competitors.
 
There are some of us who do not competye much anymore partially on the account of this. I cant complain that I cant win because I choose not to compete often under these ciorcumstances.  When I give up the hope of meaningful change by the ARRL and VUAC I will sell the gear and move on.
 
BRING ALL THE FACTS
k3uhf
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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