[VHFcontesting] Post-Contest Grid Square Queries

[David Olean]

 I read the chess article on the web. Gosh there is a real parallel there 
between the chess scenario, and the use of internet spotting etc for single 
ops. If you use the internet then you are being assisted, but no one will 
know without a judge in your shack. (usually)  I am sure that the prop 
loggers are heavily used by all sorts of people during contests. I would 
like to see no internet action for all contesters, single op and multi op. 
It really takes the mystery out of the competition to have a prop logger 
available. Sort of like using a chess program to analyze your move 
beforehand.  Now we also have CW skimmer to deal with just like a computer 
chess program! What will happen over the next few years in radio contesting? 
At this rate, I hate to think about it.  An interesting book recently read 
is "The Singularity is Near" by Ray Kurzweil. The next 25 years will be like 
nothing else before in all of our endeavors.

73
Dave K1WHS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Fremin III" <geoiii at kkn.net>
To: "Chet, N8RA" <chetsubaccount at snet.net>
Cc: "'Ward Silver'" <hwardsil at gmail.com>; "'VHF Contest Reflector'" 
<vhfcontesting at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Post-Contest Grid Square Queries


> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 04:44:01PM -0400, Chet, N8RA wrote:
>
>> But I agree with your point on the ethics of contesting. Some public
>> discussion of the issues and fine points helps not only the specific
>> instance but a wider audience realize and understand them. Last contest
>> there was mention of the misuse of scheduling and chat networks during 
>> the
>> contest by Single Ops.
>>
>> Toward better, cleaner, competition,
>
> Yes.
>
> Sunlight is a good thing.
>
> Recently on another list there has been a discussion of
> ethics and rules and such.  One of the posts was from K5ZD
> who had just given the contest ethics talk at the Contest University.
>
> He said:
>
> In my contesting ethics talk at Contest University, I
>        suggested two points to keep in mind when considering pushing
> the envelope.  Would you be ok with what you are doing if it
> was made public?  Are you willing to live with the long term
> impact on your reputation if there is even an appearance of
> misconduct?
>
> And W9SZ followed up with:
>
> There's a third questions I thought of.  It could be very
> telltale, actually. The question is "How do you feel about
> others doing the same thing?"
>
> Food for thought.
>
> I have been thinking about contest rules and cheating and such
> and I found a posting on the Internet that I found interesting
> in the way that it parallels the fact that we do not have
> judges in our shacks during a contest it has to do with playing
> chess over the Internet or via email or mail.
>
> http://www.playchess.de/articles/1
>
>
> -- 
> George Fremin III - K5TR
> geoiii at kkn.net
> http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
>
>
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