[VHFcontesting] A distance scoring contest
kr7o at vhfdx.com
kr7o at vhfdx.com
Fri Feb 13 13:50:47 EST 2009
Brilliant idea Marshall ! Have teams of grid circlers on both coasts (or
better yet a team in South Africa or Australia) and grid circle via the
moon. Want a challenge Wayne?
Hope your "cheap-yagi" array works. I would be concerned about poor G/T
with those antennas causing RX problems, but it is something I considered
before, 16x cheap yagis, just for fun.
>Speaking of which, would grid circlers still have a huge advantage due
>to all the QSO's that they can make? Would a contact "just across the
>line" count for 0.03 miles?? Just wondering.
>
>73 to all....Marshall K5QE
>
>Zack Widup wrote:
>
> > That is sooo cool that you made all those EME QSO's in the contest! I
> > don't even hope to ever achieve that in the QRP Portable class! But
> > then, neither will anyone else in that category. :-)
> >
> > It certainly puts a new twist on distance scoring, doesn't it? Not
> > likely a Rover is going to do EME, either. At least not on 144 MHz.
> >
> > 73, Zack W9SZ
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Marshall Williams
> > <k5qe at sabinenet.com <mailto:k5qe at sabinenet.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello to everyone.....Concerning the Distance scoring thing:
> > First, let
> > me say that I neither oppose nor favor a distance measured contest. I
> > have never operated in one and it might be fun.
> >
> > However, I would like to bring up an issue that has not been
> > considered. In the Jan VHF contest, I made 36 2M EME contacts with
> > stations all over Europe and the US. Although there are only a few
> > JA's, VK's, and ZL's on EME, it is certainly possible to work them
> > too.
> > Below I have listed a few of these contacts, just for calculation
> > purposes.
> >
> > A bit of analysis here: The longest contact made was to Glenn,
> > ZS2GK at
> > 9124 miles....the shortest to John, W4RBO, was only 774 miles.
> > Most EU
> > contacts are 5000+ miles. The run of the mill US contacts were from
> > 1200- to 1900- miles. I have only listed 31 contacts, with a total
> > mileage of 120997.
> >
> > The issue that I want to advance is that a single contact of 9124
> > miles
> > would be the same as 91 contacts of 100 miles--or 45 contacts of 200
> > miles. I doubt very much that I make 45 contacts of 200 miles or more
> > to non-EME stations in *any* VHF contest on 2M. The contacts
> > listed(the
> > other 5 are scattered in my log somewhere) would be equivalent to 1209
> > contacts of 100 miles and 604 contacts of 200 miles!! I certainly
> > have
> > never made 1209 contacts on 2M in any contest, much less of 100 miles.
> > I have never made 604 contacts on 2M either....of any distance. I
> > guess
> > I can dream.....HI.
> >
> > Hence, and I am finally getting to the point of all this, a distance
> > scoring contest would inevitably become a "mini-EME" contest with
> > whatever locals you could find thrown in. I would participate in this
> > contest and have fun, especially since I would have a major advantage
> > over everyone in the country except for a few spoil sports.....like
> > W5UN, KB8RQ, K9MRI, W7GJ, K6MYC, K1JT, and a few others. HI. You may
> > see pictures of my "advantage" on my web site.
> >
> > Finally, a contest where the advantage of the folks living in the
> > "Golden Corridor" is eliminated!!! It is CLEAR that we should
> > have such
> > a contest!!! Considering how awful the propagation was in this Jan
> > contest, maybe the Jan contest should be it.
> >
> > OK you say, we will just ban EME contacts in such a contest. Well
> > that
> > certainly files in the face of a distance measured contest. We want
> > people to work hard to make difficult, long distance
> > contacts--just not
> > TOO long distance!!
> >
> > Again, I think that a distance measured contest might be fun and I
> > would
> > certainly participate. I just wanted everyone to know how such a
> > contest will be "gamed".
> >
> > GM es 73 to all.....Marshall K5QE
> > www.k5qe.com <http://www.k5qe.com/>
> >
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0704 K5QE EM31 ZS2GK
> > KF47 9124 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0710 K5QE EM31 DL8GP
> > JN39 5055 miles
> > QSO: 144 CW 2009-01-18 0720 K5QE EM31 SM2CEW
> > KP15 4963 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0730 K5QE EM31 RK3FG
> > KO86 5729 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0734 K5QE EM31 K0KP
> > EN36 1043 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0750 K5QE EM31 IK1UWL
> > JN33 5260 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0754 K5QE EM31 HA0HO
> > KN07 5666 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0758 K5QE EM31 K0AWU
> > EN37 1112 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0802 K5QE EM31 9A3GE
> > JN75 5519 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0807 K5QE EM31 YL2HA
> > KO26 5403 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0811 K5QE EM31 OM3BC
> > JN98 5550 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0816 K5QE EM31 YT3I
> > KN05 5752 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0820 K5QE EM31 WB2RVX
> > FM29 1195 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0825 K5QE EM31 DK1CO
> > JO63 5139 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0832 K5QE EM31 IK1FJI
> > JN44 5310 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0837 K5QE EM31 DK5EW
> > JN48 5168 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0845 K5QE EM31 DL4DWA
> > JO61 5212 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0855 K5QE EM31 S52LM
> > JN65 5438 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0905 K5QE EM31 K1JT
> > FN20 1224 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0908 K5QE EM31 WA3QPX
> > FM29 1195 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0914 K5QE EM31 DJ9EV
> > JN49 5134 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0921 K5QE EM31 K6MYC
> > DM07 1495 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0924 K5QE EM31 IK2DDR
> > JN55 5357 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0940 K5QE EM31 I2FAK
> > JN45 5274 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 0958 K5QE EM31 EB1DNK
> > IN62 4655 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 1025 K5QE EM31 K7CW
> > CN87 1899 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 1100 K5QE EM31 K1OR
> > FN42 1469 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 1110 K5QE EM31 W7CE
> > CN87 1889 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 1134 K5QE EM31 W4RBO
> > EL99 774 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 1140 K5QE EM31 W1TMZ
> > FN41 1442 miles
> > QSO: 144 PH 2009-01-18 1146 K5QE EM31 VE5UF
> > DO61 1542 miles
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