[VHFcontesting] Logging Rovers in Contests

[James Duffey]

The rule says that you have to log the call that is sent. KK6MC/r is not the same as KK6MC. Adding /r does change your call for contesting purposes. That is the whole point of adding the /r.

Can you explain in more detail why you feel it problematic to log the call with a /r? I must confess I don’t understand your point.

Listen for the weak ones. - Duffey


On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:57 PM, W5PR <w5prchuck at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just because I am a rover doesn't change my call.  I have to log the call is all the rule says. That's what I will do. Interesting conversation though. 
> 
> Chuck W5PR
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2015, at 6:35 PM, James Duffey <jamesduffey at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Chuck - In the General Rules for all ARRL Contests:
>> 
>> “3.2. All callsigns and exchange information must be sent, received, acknowledged and logged correctly by each station for a complete QSO."
>> 
>> If you don’t log KK6MC/r when you work KK6MC/r you did not log the correct call. If you log KK6MC when you have actually worked KK6MC/r, you have logged the incorrect call. KK6MC/r and KK6MC are two different calls. You stand the risk of the log checkers declaring the QSO void or nil because you did not copy the correct call as indicated by your log entry. You violated General Rule 3.2. 
>> 
>> It is all pretty clear if you read all the rules. May be not obvious, but clear.  
>> 
>> Granted, it is confusing having the rules for VHF contests in 3 different places, and that should be corrected, but it is stated in all of the rules that the others also apply and you should read all of them. Just read all the rules.
>> 
>> I am not sure what the issue is in logging KK6MC/r instead of KK6MC. If it is a problem, let the ARRL know why it is a problem. If it is not a problem, do it.
>> 
>> Get on. Work us. Log us. Submit your log. Easy. - Duffey KK6MC/r
>> 
>> 
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 17:22:47 -0500
>>> From: Chuck Dietz <w5prchuck at gmail.com>
>>> To: VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting at contesting.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Logging Rovers in Contests
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>>> AND, this rule seems to indicate you don't need the "/R" as long as it is
>>> from a different grid.
>>> 
>>> *7.2. *Stations may be worked for credit only once per band from any given
>>> grid square,
>>> 
>>> regardless of mode. This does not prohibit working a station from more than
>>> one grid square
>>> 
>>> with the same call sign (such as a Rover).
>>> 
>>> Chuck W5PR
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Chuck Dietz <w5prchuck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> A lot of opinions, but no clarification in the rules.  Yes, rovers have to
>>>> sign "/R" so everyone will know they are not dupes, but nothing says they
>>>> have to be logged as "/R"  The only remote use would be for a rover who
>>>> operates a non-rover entry from the same grid as he started/finished roving
>>>> from.  Far fetched, but you might lose a Q if you didn't put the /R after
>>>> one of the contacts.
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck W5PR
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Marshall-K5QE <k5qe at k5qe.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Chuck....The /R is required for ARRL contests....that is what I
>>>>> believe....I may be wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> GL tomorrow and Sun
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73 Marshall K5QE
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/12/2015 12:30 PM, Chuck Dietz wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think many put "/R" after a rover call when logging it in a contest.  I
>>>>> have never done that.  If the grid changes, Writelog takes it.  Is there
>>>>> any necessity or rule about this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chuck W5PR
>>> 
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