[VHFcontesting] Setting up new station

[Duane - N9DG]

Better think the 45 degree polarization thing through a bit more. It only works good if you are the only one doing it. If everyone else is also turned 45 degrees in the same direction as you are, and they are then pointed towards you, you will then discover that the 45 degree polarization idea has a major flaw.

Duane
N9DG

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On Mon, 11/14/16, John Young via VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting at contesting.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Setting up new station
 To: waisean at gmail.com, w9sz.zack at gmail.com, vhfcontesting at contesting.com
 Date: Monday, November 14, 2016, 4:19 PM
 
 Sean,
 
 I cant take complete credit for the idea.  It
 was one of many ideas people on the reflector discussed wit
 me last spring. I can say the loss wasnt noticable.  Not
 only did I get my longest range qso at 45 deg polarization,
 I also got my texhnically weakest, a 5w ht at 90  miles and
 he was deep in an urban jungle.
 
 John. KM4KMU
 
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 On
 Sunday, November 13, 2016 Sean Waite <waisean at gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
 John,
 
 That's a pretty good idea.
 I was trying to think what I would tell a new contester with
 only FM gear. As a primarily sideband station we run all
 h-pol, and it doesn't make sense to change that on our
 end. Running your FM beams at 45 degrees if that's all
 you got, if possible, is likely the best of both worlds.
 Canting a vertical might work if they are broadside to the
 cant as well, though you're likely to add too many other
 variables in that.
 
 
 I thought I sent this email forever ago, and
 apparently it was just sitting in my drafts. Oops.
 
 
 Sean WA1TE
 
 
 On Fri, Nov
 4, 2016 at 5:00 PM John Young via VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting at contesting.com>
 wrote:
 
 Sean & Zack,
 
 
 For September
 I was at 4400 ft ASL.  I ran VV on Saturday and then set
 the beams at 45 degrees for Sunday.  At 45 degrees you lose
 3dB against a VV and HH station.  The idea was that an SSB
 HH station (stacked beams and amps) might just see me on the
 band scope and flip to FM (seeing my freq was 146.520) and
 try for a QSO.  Multipliers are hard to come by on FM.  I
 didnt get any "big stations" running HH.  K8GP/R
 was my only "high end" station and they did run VV
 for FM.  Honestly I did not notice the 3dB loss and set at
 45 degrees I got my longest range FM QSO at 187 miles, clear
 as a bell and I was working the side of his beam.
 
 
 73
 John
 KM4KMU