[VHFcontesting] Logging Rovers vs the log checking robots

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The rover also has to remember to make a new location for each grid that they are working out of for LoTW to approach a working solution.
 
If I activate EM04, EM05, and EM06 then I have to create locations for (as I name them) NL7CO/EM04, NL7CO/EM05, and NL7CO/EM06 or they won't work right either.  Then I have to break dow the logs to show the appropriate contacts for each of those grids.
 
Don
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Harrison <w5zn at w5zn.org>
To: Keith Morehouse <w9rm at calmesapartners.com>
Cc: vhfcontesting <vhfcontesting at contesting.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 5, 2017 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Logging Rovers vs the log checking robots

Ahhh, OK !!!! I understand now Jay.

Yea, that is an issue.

ZN



> Thanks Joel.
>
> The problem we're having is one some Rovers are familiar with.  Stations
> like me, who upload our contest logger (in my case N1MM+) .ADIF right into
> LoTW, having all the Rover contacts as xxxx/R and the Rovers, many of
> which
> do NOT get a separate LoTW certificate for the /R designation, having
> THEIR
> LoTW entries without the /R.  Results ?  The contacts DO NOT appear to
> match in LoTW and no confirmation happens.
>
> I have heard through direct emails (remember VHF CONTESTING reflector
> users, the default 'reply' is the original poster only, not the list) that
> some (probably small) number of Rovers have applied and received a
> separate
> LoTW certificate for xxxx/R and upload Rover logs using that certificate.
> Results ?  Those QSOs would match what I have in my LoTW database.
>
> The problem may be that it's not common knowledge that one NEEDS a
> separate
> LoTW certificate for a Rover to cover the almost universal practice (I
> think...) of logging those Rover calls as xxxx/R.  I never thought about
> it
> until this week when a local Rover dropped what will be dozens of new
> band/grids for me onto LoTW. . . .and NONE of them matched.
>
> Jay W9RM
> DM58 CO
>
> Keith J Morehouse
> Managing Partner
> Calmesa Partners G.P.
> Olathe, CO
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Joel Harrison <w5zn at w5zn.org> wrote:
>
>> An interesting question, Jay!
>>
>> I have no experience with any logging programs of recent years other
>> than
>> N1MM for contests and DX4Win for my every day logging. After a contest I
>> do as you have noted below, export the N1MM file to an ADIF and then
>> import it into my DX4Win station log. These work fine for rovers and
>> "W9RM/R" is imported as a U.S. callsign with all the other info (grid,
>> etc). So I have no issue here with those two logging programs. I just
>> went
>> and verified this with some rovers from the June contest.
>>
>> I can't speak for other logging programs but all good here with those
>> two.
>>
>> 73 Joel W5ZN
>>
>>
>>
>> > I'm having a off-line discussion with a experienced Rover and a
>> question
>> > has come up...
>> >
>> > When I log a Rover (any Rover - as long as I know he's a Rover), it
>> goes
>> > into my log as xxxx/R.  This is how I've always done it and never had
>> a
>> > problem with log checking robots at ARRL or CQ.
>> >
>> > But, what would the log checking bot think if I didn't include the /R
>> and
>> > then worked the same Rover in various grids (entering the proper
>> exchange
>> > for each one, of course).  Would those QSOs get dinged or is the robot
>> > 'smart' enough to know the call is (or could be) a Rover and is
>> > permissible
>> > as long as the grid mult is different.
>> >
>> > Funny thing is, a call like W9RM/R is not a valid USA callsign - it is
>> > more
>> > likely a call for the Russian Republic, and many general logging
>> programs
>> > insist on categorizing it that way.
>> >
>> > This question doesn't really have anything to do with submitting a
>> contest
>> > log.  It's what happens when you try to use the contest log .ADIF for
>> > something else (like LoTW...).
>> >
>> > Jay W9RM
>> > DM58 CO
>> >
>> > Keith J Morehouse
>> > Managing Partner
>> > Calmesa Partners G.P.
>> > Olathe, CO
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