[VHFcontesting] MSK144 contacts in cabrillo

Marshall-K5QE k5qe at k5qe.com
Sun Jan 29 14:59:19 EST 2017


Hello All....I have been using PH for WSJT contacts in my log files sent 
to the ARRL for as long as I have been sending them.  What WSJT does is 
to inject tones into the microphone connector(essentially).  These tones 
follow the same path that speech would follow in the rig.  For me, that 
makes it PH.  None of my logs has ever been questioned or rejected.

In any case, the ARRL's VHF contests are not mode specific.  In other 
words, the mode does not matter....you get to work the other station 
only once in any case.  The robot does not match my PH against my 
contact's RY or CW.

I would rather that the ARRL not, by fiat, create a "standard" for WSJT 
type contacts.  These contacts are clearly NOT RTTY.  I don't want to 
have to edit my log files to change all the PH to {new standard} for 
just the WSJT contacts.  Since MODE does not matter, spending a lot of 
time worrying about it us just wasted time and energy.

If someone else wants to use RY, go for it, but I will stay with PH 
unless I am forced to change.  Since mode does not matter, why bother?

73 Marshall K5QE


On 1/28/2017 10:07 PM, Sean Waite wrote:
> It most certainly does help, thanks. Exactly what I was looking for.
>
> Sean WA1TE
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 18:38 Roger Rehr W3SZ <w3sz73 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is an answer and Jay is 100% correct.   :)
>>
>> I was told long ago that RY is standard.  There is good documentation
>> for this and so RY is what I have been doing for years to log digital
>> contacts for Cabrillo logs.
>>
>> Here are some references, listed as first reference then quotation:
>>
>> http://qsl.net/w3km/cab_template.htm
>> Most sponsors use `RY` for all non-CW digital modes.
>>
>>
>> https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~becher/ShackPrimer/N1MM%20Logger%20Documents%202011-02-03_merged[1].pdf
>> <https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~becher/ShackPrimer/N1MM%20Logger%20Documents%202011-02-03_merged%5B1%5D.pdf>
>> page 174:  Note: The Cabrillo standard only supports one mode designator
>> for digital modes: RY.
>>
>>
>> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Contest%20-%20General/Tutorials/Submitting%20An%20Electronic%20Contest%20Log.pdf
>> The next item is the mode used . The standard abbreviations are PH for
>> an SSB or AM QSO, CW for CW, FM for FM, and RY for RTTY/digital modes
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Roger Rehr
>> W3SZ
>>
>> On 1/28/2017 4:50 PM, Sean Waite wrote:
>>> Sounds like there is no real answer, with some people doing PH or RY
>>>
>>> As long as there is no official whatever for it, I guess we can use
>>> whatever makes sense. Probably RY, though PH is reasonable as well.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sean WA1TE
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017, 16:26 Keith Morehouse <w9rm at calmesapartners.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> RY will do it.
>>>>
>>>> Jay W9RM
>>>> DM58 CO
>>>>
>>>> Keith J Morehouse
>>>> Managing Partner
>>>> Calmesa Partners G.P.
>>>> Olathe, CO
>>>> I
>>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sean Waite <waisean at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey All,
>>>>>
>>>>> What do we put for Mode in a cabrillo file when you've made an MSK144
>>>>> contact? The only options in the QSO standard seem to be CW, PH, FM or
>>>> RY.
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Sean WA1TE
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