[VHFcontesting] JUNE/JULY VHF Contest Proposal and Operating Protocol

Bob, W3IDT w3idt at comcast.net
Mon Jun 7 14:19:05 EDT 2021


Tim,

Thanks for your comments.

>> Leave the June contest alone! Every year someone comes up With a new plan
>> to give the East Coast an even larger advantage! I am Damn Tired Of It!

I'm not proposing changing rules in the short term, merely a "Contest 
within a Contest" during this JUNE and JULY contests.

>> Leave the point system ALONE as it is increasingly difficult to make
>> contacts as you go higher in freq. It has nothing to do with equipment
>> availability! Has more to do with Time & Money.

I specifically left the scoring - point system - as is.

>> If Signals are LOUD, being on FT8 makes increasingly less and less sense!
>> QSY to CW & SSB where stations can be worked at 300+ an hour, not a pewny
>> 60!

ABSOLUTELY. I thought I stated that quite clearly.
Though your relative numbers, 300+ and 60, do seem a bit high...

>> This june contest should be on at least 6, ... here in DM09jh. 
>> Hope to work you all then!

Would be a pleasure :-)

Bob, w3idt
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On 6/5/2021 8:52 PM, K7XC Tim Marek wrote:
> Sprints while fun are poorly planned to be held one weekend before The June
> QSO party. No one is going to waste there time when the real thing every
> one prepairs months for is a week away!
> 
> Leave the June contest alone! Every year someone comes up With a new plan
> to give the East Coast an even larger advantage! I am Damn Tired Of It!
> 
> Leave the point system ALONE as it is increasingly difficult to make
> contacts as you go higher in freq. It has nothing to do with equipment
> availability! Has more to do with Time & Money.
> 
> FT8 does NOT need to be limited to only 3 KHz of spectrum! 50.303 and every
> 5 KHz up thru  50.323 should be utilized during huge band openings.
> Announce on .313, Slack, KST Chat, Cali VHF Chat, etc, your operating freq
> and folks will find & spot you. This is true outside of contests as well!
> 
> If Signals are LOUD, being on FT8 makes increasingly less and less sense!
> QSY to CW & SSB where stations can be worked at 300+ an hour, not a pewny
> 60!
> 
> Using FT8 to work folks in the same and nearby grids is not only time
> consuming, but Stupid as well as you're now blocking folks from hearing
> people that are truly far away.
> 
> Where Did Everyones Common Sense Go?
> 
> Spin those antennas to non typical paths to CQ and LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN!
> You cant work new ones if you dont try to!
> 
> Before I grew old and poor, each Sumner back in 80s, 90s, and early 2000s
> you would find me activating rare grids in NV. Unable to do so now,  I am
> very proud of the new breed of ROVERs who are doing so with great gusto!
> Good Job Guys! These are the guys to learn from.
> 
> This june contest should be on at least 6, 2, & possibly 222 and 432 from
> home here in DM09jh. Hope to work you all then!
> 
> 73s & GL de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh... sk
> 
> Adapt, Overcome, Succeed!
> 
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> On Sat, Jun 5, 2021, 15:11 Zack Widup <w9sz.zack at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I actually worked four stations this morning. AND I made 7 QSO's with
>> K9JK/R. Somehow he managed to hit four grid squares in half an hour and we
>> worked on both CW and SSB on three of them. The last was an SSB QSO in the
>> last minute and we didn't have time to go to CW.
>>
>> That's more QSO's in half an hour than I made in three hours in the 222 and
>> 432 Spring Sprints. There was a lot more activity in the 144 Spring Sprint
>> here - I managed 20 QSO's with 13 different stations in that one (quite a
>> few Rovers out).
>>
>> 73, Zack W9SZ
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 4:44 PM Dave <kdcarlso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This morning pretty much convinced me that few people actually want a
>>> change or a return to a traditional contest. I participated in the sprint
>>> this morning and worked two stations. When presented with an option. No
>>> one, at least in my area which is a pretty active VHF+ region, bothered
>> to
>>> participate. I guess most want to complain and few want to participate.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>> N2OA
>>>
>>>
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