[VHFcontesting] Is there analog on 6 meters?

Sat Jun 11 13:31:33 EDT 2022

All,

With apologies for any confusion regarding conflicting messages on
spotting, OPRG.8 superceeds all else in ARRL VHF events above 50 MHz.

As has been the case for many years, spotting and variations thereof are
permitted in all ARRL  50 MHz and above events.

The confusion here in is one of the pitfalls of trying to use an
all-encompassing rules set to then reference only parts of them in various
events.

Below are the  OPRG.8 spotting rules for ARRL 50 MHz and above contests.

Wishing everyone a safe and enjoyable ARRL June VHF Contest!

73 Bart Jahnke W9JJ
ARRL Radiosport Manager

OPRG.8. Spotting Assistance in VHF+ contests
OPRG.8.1. All entrants, regardless of category, are permitted to use
spotting assistance or nets including but not limited to DX-alerting nets,
internet chat rooms, APRS and other packet, reverse beacon networks and
repeaters to identify stations available for contacts and to announce
(self-spot) their availability for contacts.
OPRG.8.2. Announcements shall be limited to call sign, location, band or
frequency, mode and — if applicable — transmitting sequence and listening
direction.
OPRG.8.3. These methods of spotting assistance may also be used to
coordinate antenna peaking prior to initiation of the contact and to
explain contest rules, such as the exchange required, for those who need
clarification.
OPRG.8.4. Such assistance may not be used to facilitate the completion of
any contact once the contact has commenced. This means such assistance may
not be used to convey receipt or non-receipt of any required element of a
contact or to request a repeat of any required element of a contact.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 12:14 PM George Fremin III <geoiii at kkn.net> wrote:

>
> Yep seems clear to me - that it is allowed.
>
> Although I will point out that further down the pages of rules it says
> this under Prohibited Conduct:
>
> PROH.3. Spotting your own station ("self-spotting") or asking to be
> spotted by another station.
>
> Sigh.
>
> The published rules seem to be at odds with themselves.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 07:17:08AM -0500, Scott Armstrong wrote:
> > Per the rules. Self spotting is allowed
> >
> > OPRG.8. Spotting Assistance in VHF+ contests OPRG.
> >
> > *8.1. All entrants, regardless of category, are permitted to use spotting
> > assistance or nets including but not limited to DX-alerting nets,
> internet
> > chat rooms, APRS and other packet, reverse beacon networks and repeaters
> to
> > identify stations available for contacts and to announce (self-spot)
> their
> > availability for contacts. *
> >
> > OPRG.8.2. Announcements shall be limited to call sign, location, band or
> > frequency, mode and — if applicable — transmitting sequence and listening
> > direction.
> >
> > OPRG.8.3. These methods of spotting assistance may also be used to
> > coordinate antenna peaking prior to initiation of the contact and to
> > explain contest rules, such as the exchange required, for those who need
> > clarification.
> >
> > OPRG.8.4. Such assistance may not be used to facilitate the completion of
> > any contact once the contact has commenced. This means such assistance
> may
> > not be used to convey receipt or non-
> >
> >
> > -GL,
> > Scott AA5AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 10:39 PM Robie Elms <ruler55 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Alan,
> > >
> > > Yes, there is analog activity on 6 m.  However it is greatly reduced
> > since the introduction of FT8.  I often listen and don’t hear anyone.
> > Calling CQ often brings a response.  However, I have call CQ frequently
> to
> > get any responses.  Self spotting helps as well, however self spotting is
> > not acceptable for contests!
> > >
> > > Robie AJ4F
> > >
> > > > On Jun 8, 2022, at 18:54, Zack Widup <w9sz.zack at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I'm the same way. I operate portable with no digital. I manage to
> fit
> > 10
> > > > bands into a Saturn Ion. I'm hoping I can make some CW/SSB QSO's on
> 6m
> > but
> > > > I will probably find some people on 144 or 432 who will run some
> bands
> > with
> > > > me.
> > > >
> > > > 73, Zack W9SZ
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 6:47 PM Alan Larson <wa6azp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>  Is there analog on 6 meters in the contests?  I ask because I heard
> > none
> > > >> in the sprint.  I got on an hour after the start due to finishing up
> > some
> > > >> yard work, and heard nothing but white noise in the vicinity of
> 50.125
> > and
> > > >> 50.095, as well as tuning around.  Apparently the band was closed,
> as I
> > > >> don't recall beacons, either.  However, I would have hoped for some
> > actual
> > > >> contesters.
> > > >>
> > > >>  Perhaps they had all moved to FT8 by that time, or perhaps they
> never
> > did
> > > >> analog around here.  ( I was operating portable from DM43. )
> > > >>
> > > >>  I have seen comments (I think here) that much of 6m has gone
> digital
> > with
> > > >> the HF+6 rigs and operators doing digital.  I operate portable with
> no
> > digi
> > > >> modes.  It all has to fit in a VW Jetta.  Or, perhaps it is
> location.
> > My
> > > >> favored CM87 location was just over 1800 feet elevation looking
> over a
> > > >> large area, I have found nothing similar available near here.
> > > >>
> > > >>  If anyone knows of good options within reasonable range of DM43bo,
> I'm
> > > >> interested.
> > > >>
> > > >>        Alan
> > > >>
> > > >> 114 degrees predicted for Saturday....
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