OK, I give up. Where the #%##!!%%## is the ##%&*# download for 10.25 upgrade. This URL http://www.writelog.com/Downloads/WL1025MUPG.ZIP does not work for me. Jim N0AJ -- WWW: http://www.writelog.com/ Submissions: writelog@contesting.com Administrative requests: writelog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-writelog@contesting.com