[WriteLog] More re XP Upgrade Issues
Steve Baron - KB3MM
Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@starlinx.com
Wed, 7 Nov 2001 01:36:30 -0000
I'm a little confused by what you say.
Some clarification might help some of us.
In-line comments.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Harder" <jon@praxisworks.org>
To: <writelog@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 21:21
Subject: [WriteLog] More re XP Upgrade Issues
> In running the various web-site pre-tests ( like www.PCPitStop.com ) to
> ensure hardware/software compatibility before taking the plunge, and
getting
> reliable-looking OKs of my hardware and overall no serious surprises, I
had
> finally decided to move up from Win98 to XP (Home Edition) in a dual-boot
> configuration. And then ......
Thought MS still published a Hardware Compatibility List (HCL).
The XP HCL does not say that something will not work with XP, but rather
that XP does not have the drivers for the hardware.
>
> Before opening the XP upgrade packaging I decided to run one last round of
> tests using MS's own UpgradeAdvisor which came free on a little CD tucked
> into the outer box from Staples.Com. (.I had looked for it earlier on the
> MS site with no success.)
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> Very glad I did! << OUCH >> -- It revealed that XP absolutely won't
> support some older plain vanilla ISA serial port add-ons I've used for
years
Are you refering to 8250 type UARTS ?
Non-PnP?
What do you define as 'older plain vanilla'?
> as Comm 3 and 4. My SIIG PCI Comm 5 and 6 ports would require an easy and
DOes that card have separate port and IRQ for each serial port ? ISA ?
PnP?
> free driver update from SIIG - no problem there.
Anything not on the HCL would have to have drivers supplied by the mfgr. In
fact, if a device is not directly supported by P, that simply means that the
mfgr did not supply MS with a driver or at least not by the cutoff date.
> But no more "real"
What does 'real' mean ?
> legacy serial port support! While I had followed earlier threads here
about
> LPT port problems, and had already changed CW keying over from LPT2 to a
> serial port, I had not realized that legacy serial ports are also now
> rendered unusable without something like the Direct-IO.com driver.
Something scrambled here. Real OS's do not permit applications to talk
directly to the hardware. Been that way for millions of years.
Direct-IO appears to simply virtualize hardware access as did WIN95/98/ME
for years..
user assumes responsibility for use.
Now, how does that fit in with what you say about legacy serial ports ? The
implication is that legacy serial ports have the problem but non-legacy
ones....but the application does business the same way no matter what the
ports are...the app either talks directly to the hardware or does not by
going thru a standard OS API.
Very confusing ?
> (Or a
> future addition to WL?) Upgrade Advisor also said NO to my trusty HP
> OfficeJet printer/FAX/scanner, though no doubt HP has a driver
upgrade....?
That probably simply says that HP did not supply updated software....
>
> So -- back goes the sealed XP package to my friendly software vendor, just
> as Win2K Professional did before it. Maybe later, Big Bill, but not
now.
> I'll save the $100 bucks for my grandkids' Christmas. For the
forseeable
> future, this WL user sticks with Win 98, which has been stable and solid
on
> a little BioStar board with 400 mHz K6 and 256mB of SDRAM.
Nothing wrong with that computer hardware...
>
> 73 to all,
>
> Jon K1US
>
> Also appears Intel plans to finally kill off RS-232 ports, PS/2 ports and
> 1.44mB floppy drives within two years -- see www.BeyondLogic.com .
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