[WriteLog] WL in a M/M Station

Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:42:23 -0500

You can adjust WL to show most of the band on the bandmap depending on the
monitor settings.  In the contest I generally used the packet window for
finding mults and unworked stations...just clicked on the last first and
worked every spot on the map and the ones I couldn't here or were busted I
would delete until the window was empty.  I primarily used the bandmap when
I was doing S/P and wanted to know where not to stop because I had already
worked the guy.

The bandmap shows Mults, New Stations, and Worked stations in differnent
colors so you can quickly see what is on the band.  In order to see a part
of the bandmap that is not on the screen you need to change the freq of the
rig or the center freq of the bandmap.  I think that you should be able to
scroll the bandmap witht he mouse but that has not happened yet.

hope that helps

73,
Zev N2WKS

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Ferdinand W2CS [mailto:w2cs@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 6:57 AM
To: writelog@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [WriteLog] WL in a M/M Station

Yet another question came to mind as I was reliving the CQ WW CW contest
this morning. The question has to do with band maps.

We were using TRLog in a 4-position M/M set up.  TRLog provides its band map
as a list of call sign/frequency pairs.  It works out to about 3 or 4
columns of these pairs. The pairs are sorted by frequency.  I'd say the
bottom 1/3 of the page was band map, and about 50-100 entries fit on that
page.

The problem I had with TR, and which I'm wondering WL might help, is that TR
becomes very cumbersome when the band map needs to exceed a page worth of
data.  You use CTRL-END to see the next page, but that page reverts to the
first band map page when you make the next QSO.  Not very useable.  Easy to
miss a mult that might be on page 2, for instance.

What does WL's band map look like under contest conditions such as last
weekend's CQ WW?  How many calls fit?  I know you can vary granularity of
the sliderule display, but doesn't that sliderule become a limiting factor?
How does one deal with a ton of spots?  If I could, I'd try this myself and
see, but I don't want to wait for the next contest ;-)

Thanks,

Gary W2CS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: writelog-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:writelog-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Gary Ferdinand W2CS
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:51 PM
> To: writelog@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [WriteLog] WL in a M/M Station
>
>
> Looks like my original set of questions proved I was confused!  :-)
>
> I used the term "WL Server" in the same context as the documentation used
> it.  The documentation to which I refer is at www.k9jy.com under "multiop
> contesting" link in the left-hand list of links, followed by
> clicking on the
> link called "network writelog."  Now, to be sure, the term
> "server" is used
> rather loosely.  It is not what I would term a server, where all
> things are
> centralized.  I'm quite aware that WL implements a peer-to-peer network
> architecture.  So, let me call it a "server," using quotes to
> indicate that
> term is being loosely applied here.
>
> Some aspects of the "server" seem useful.  The ability to
> establish initial
> conditions which are then pulled into local WLs so that set up
> parameters at
> least start off the same.  Also, it appeared from the description
> - and here
> I might have gone astray - that when a position comes back online into the
> network and does a connect, it connects to this "server" which
> then resynchs
> it such that it is supplied with full aggregate log state. If there's no
> "server" as many of you answered, to what does the (re)starting computer
> connect to get it's data resynched?
>
> Many of you stated "no server."  I'm having trouble reconciling
> that answer
> with what I see on the web site.  In the context of the "server" described
> in the doc, if that "server" were to fail, it would seem important to
> restart it and have it once again perform its role of being the arbitrator
> of restarts elsewhere.  How does it get back up and running
> without loss of
> data?
>
> Clearly, I've confused something here.  Can you all help me climb
> out of the
> mental hole I've dug?
>
> Thanks!
>
> 73/Gary W2CS
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: writelog-admin@contesting.com
> > [mailto:writelog-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Gary Ferdinand W2CS
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 11:37 AM
> > To: writelog@contesting.com
> > Subject: [WriteLog] WL in a M/M Station
> >
> >
> > Dear WLers,
> >
> > I'm doing some investigation of various loggers that support a M/M
> > configuration.  I've only used WL in a limited way so far, single
> > op in SS,
> > and I'm very impressed.  But I've thoroughly perused the excellent
> > documentation available as it pertains to M/M operations and it
> > raises a few
> > questions.
> >
> > 1.  The existence of a WL server.  I presume this is a requirement when
> > running M/M?
> >
> > 2.  Recovery after restart.  I am intrigued and pleased by the WL design
> > that appears to (re)populate the local log when a position is
> (re)started.
> > I believe the implication of this is that every position sees all
> > QSOs/Mults
> > even if one or more positions had to be restarted during the
> > contest. True?
> >
> > 3.  Recovery of the WL server.  Can someone please fill me in on
> > how/if the
> > server can be restarted and recovered?  I did not see any
> details on this.
> > For example, if the server dies and needs to be restarted (let's say a
> > simple Windoze hang, no hardware breakage)... Meanwhile the positions
> > continue to be able to operate?  When the WL server is back up, does it
> > resynch with the local positions like they can resynch with it
> after they
> > die?  I'd appreciate a complete, clear explanation of this scenario.  If
> > I've missed it in the doc, just stick my nose in it ;-)
> >
> > 4.  When a local WL dies and gets restarted, does it come up
> with the band
> > map it had when it died, a clean band map, or a band map that has been
> > updated with the events that occurred on the other positions during its
> > restart?
> >
> > 5.  At any given local position can local rate and aggregate rate be
> > displayed? Or is it just one or the other?
> >
> > 6.  Can anyone relate operating a M/M or M/2 using WL to doing the same
> > thing with another logger such as TRLog or CT?
> >
> > 7.  Is the Ethernet any more/less susceptible to RFI than
> alternative such
> > as a serial port daisy chain?
> >
> > 8.  I see port choices of only COM1-4. My system has COM5 and COM6
> > configured. Can WL access these COM ports somehow?
> >
> > Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving to all.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Gary W2CS
> > Apex, NC
> >
> >
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