[WriteLog] Re: WriteLog digest, Vol 1 #466 - 8 msgs

Wed, 22 May 2002 22:56:10 -0400

This is a case of one entity creating their own "standard" and then the 
world deciding it is good enough.  Similar to the ARRL not allowing eQSL 
to modify it's system to meet their needs but instead deciding to use 
their own.

I like the idea of using ADIF and then a common Cabrillo converter.  It 
would simplify all developers software.

Mitch Ravitz - W1GI

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>   1. RE: Cabrillo (Don Cassel)
>   2. Re: Cabrillo (Dave L Thompson)
>   3. Re: Cabrillo (Jim Brannigan)
>   4. Re: Cabrillo (Steve Baron - KB3MM)
>   5. RE: Cabrillo (Gil Baron)
>   6. Update 10.32E,  Ready (Ron K5DJ)
>   7. Re: Cabrillo (John - vk4cej)
>   8. Bandmap problem (Bob Henderson)
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>Message: 1
>From: "Don Cassel" <doncassel@compuserve.com>
>To: <writelog@contesting.com>
>Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 07:35:49 -0400
>
>Interesting comments. It seems that the new "Standard" is not really
>standard at all. I think the difference would only be in the fields
>required. ie. some would require a QSO # field others would not but the way
>a field is defined would be the same for all. Thus a Cabrillo file could be
>produced for each contest which contains only the fields required for that
>contest. That would be independent of whether the contest sponsor specifies
>the need for a Cabrillo file. Writelog would just create the file with the
>available fields. A no-brainer.
>
>The problem with WLs approach is that every time a contest sponsor decides
>to require Cabrillo then Writelog needs to create a new release of the
>software.
>
>Don't get me wrong. I like Writelog a lot and use it for most of my
>contesting. It has mostly great qualities and this is just the 1% that irks
>me.
>
>Don VE3BUC
>
>|-----Original Message-----
>|From: stevebaron@starlinx.com [mailto:stevebaron@starlinx.com]
>|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:20 PM
>|To: Don Cassel
>|Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>|
>|
>|
>|Definitely not so.
>|
>|The Cabrillo file format IS NOT the same for every contest.
>|
>|It is the responsibility of the contest sponsor to specify the format ...
>|then the logging programs can produce the file.
>|
>|----- Original Message -----
>|From: "Don Cassel" <doncassel@compuserve.com>
>|To: "Graeme Bracht vk4dz" <fab1@uq.net.au>; <writelog@contesting.com>
>|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 21:43
>|Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>|
>|
>|> Graeme,
>|>
>|> My experience has shown that WL does not support Cabrillo for every
>|contest.
>|> This has always bugged me as it seems that it should be a standard output
>|> for every contest. Not so.
>|>
>|> Gud luck,
>|> Don VE3BUC
>|>
>|> |-----Original Message-----
>|> |From: writelog-admin@contesting.com
>|> |[mailto:writelog-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Bracht vk4dz
>|> |Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:39 PM
>|> |To: writelog@contesting.com
>|> |Subject: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>|> |
>|> |
>|> |
>|> |Hello All
>|> |              Sorry to ask but only had the program for 1 week so
>|> |still learning.The cabrillo option in the "contest" drop down menu
>|> |is not available. (greyed out)  And if you go to the "export" menu
>|> |cabrillo is greyed out here also.So how do i do the for the volta
>|contest.
>|> |Thanks in advance
>|> |Graeme vk4dz
>|> |
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>Message: 2
>To: doncassel@compuserve.com
>Cc: writelog@contesting.com
>Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:19:30 -0400
>Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>From: Dave L Thompson <k4jrb@juno.com>
>
>Cabrillo was originally designed for ARRL Contests (that is why the ARRL
>Section).  However CQ and other contests have adopted it as it provides a
>standard format (see www.kkn.net).  This means the contest checking
>software can be easily set up to provide an impersonal test of each log.
>
>There is no one contest logging program that can satisfy all needs.  I
>like Writelog as its written for windows and uses windows conventions. 
>Sure its feature rich so not always easy to use especially if you are
>using CW/RTTY/SSB keying etc and complete rig control.   Every contest
>does not require cabrillo that is why sometimes cabrillo output is not
>active.  By adding the WT4I contest tools you can convert ALL logs to
>cabrillo in a good format.  Please don't attempt to homebrew cabrillo as
>the checkers will probably have to re-convert anyway.
>
>Writelog is a works in process as is any logging program...want new
>features or a contest added...just get it in the list and stay tuned!
>
>73 Dave K4JRB
>
>>Interesting comments. It seems that the new "Standard" is not really
>>standard at all. I think the difference would only be in the fields
>>required. ie. some would require a QSO # field others would not but 
>>the way
>>a field is defined would be the same for all. Thus a Cabrillo file 
>>could be
>>produced for each contest which contains only the fields required 
>>for that
>>contest. That would be independent of whether the contest sponsor 
>>specifies
>>the need for a Cabrillo file. Writelog would just create the file 
>>with the
>>available fields. A no-brainer.
>>
>>The problem with WLs approach is that every time a contest sponsor 
>>decides
>>to require Cabrillo then Writelog needs to create a new release of 
>>the
>>software.
>>
>>Don't get me wrong. I like Writelog a lot and use it for most of my
>>contesting. It has mostly great qualities and this is just the 1% 
>>that irks
>>me.
>>
>>Don VE3BUC
>>
>>|-----Original Message-----
>>|From: stevebaron@starlinx.com [mailto:stevebaron@starlinx.com]
>>|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:20 PM
>>|To: Don Cassel
>>|Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>|
>>|
>>|
>>|Definitely not so.
>>|
>>|The Cabrillo file format IS NOT the same for every contest.
>>|
>>|It is the responsibility of the contest sponsor to specify the 
>>format ...
>>|then the logging programs can produce the file.
>>|
>>|----- Original Message -----
>>|From: "Don Cassel" <doncassel@compuserve.com>
>>|To: "Graeme Bracht vk4dz" <fab1@uq.net.au>; 
>><writelog@contesting.com>
>>|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 21:43
>>|Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>|
>>|
>>|> Graeme,
>>|>
>>|> My experience has shown that WL does not support Cabrillo for 
>>every
>>|contest.
>>|> This has always bugged me as it seems that it should be a 
>>standard output
>>|> for every contest. Not so.
>>|>
>>|> Gud luck,
>>|> Don VE3BUC
>>|>
>>|> |-----Original Message-----
>>|> |From: writelog-admin@contesting.com
>>|> |[mailto:writelog-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Bracht 
>>vk4dz
>>|> |Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:39 PM
>>|> |To: writelog@contesting.com
>>|> |Subject: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>|> |
>>|> |
>>|> |
>>|> |Hello All
>>|> |              Sorry to ask but only had the program for 1 week 
>>so
>>|> |still learning.The cabrillo option in the "contest" drop down 
>>menu
>>|> |is not available. (greyed out)  And if you go to the "export" 
>>menu
>>|> |cabrillo is greyed out here also.So how do i do the for the 
>>volta
>>|contest.
>>|> |Thanks in advance
>>|> |Graeme vk4dz
>>|> |
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>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:59:50 -0400
>From: Jim Brannigan <jbrannig@optonline.net>
>Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>To: Don Cassel <doncassel@compuserve.com>, writelog@contesting.com
>
>Someone has got to pay for the programming.
>W/L has the major contests covered.
>I don't want to pay for the Upper Slobovian Yodelers club annual sprint
>Cabrillo module.
>Perhaps they could be made available, at extra cost, for those interested.
>
>Jim
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Don Cassel" <doncassel@compuserve.com>
>To: <writelog@contesting.com>
>Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 07:35
>Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>
>
>>Interesting comments. It seems that the new "Standard" is not really
>>standard at all. I think the difference would only be in the fields
>>required. ie. some would require a QSO # field others would not but the
>>
>way
>
>>a field is defined would be the same for all. Thus a Cabrillo file could
>>
>be
>
>>produced for each contest which contains only the fields required for that
>>contest. That would be independent of whether the contest sponsor
>>
>specifies
>
>>the need for a Cabrillo file. Writelog would just create the file with the
>>available fields. A no-brainer.
>>
>>The problem with WLs approach is that every time a contest sponsor decides
>>to require Cabrillo then Writelog needs to create a new release of the
>>software.
>>
>>Don't get me wrong. I like Writelog a lot and use it for most of my
>>contesting. It has mostly great qualities and this is just the 1% that
>>
>irks
>
>>me.
>>
>>Don VE3BUC
>>
>>|-----Original Message-----
>>|From: stevebaron@starlinx.com [mailto:stevebaron@starlinx.com]
>>|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:20 PM
>>|To: Don Cassel
>>|Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>|
>>|
>>|
>>|Definitely not so.
>>|
>>|The Cabrillo file format IS NOT the same for every contest.
>>|
>>|It is the responsibility of the contest sponsor to specify the format ...
>>|then the logging programs can produce the file.
>>|
>>|----- Original Message -----
>>|From: "Don Cassel" <doncassel@compuserve.com>
>>|To: "Graeme Bracht vk4dz" <fab1@uq.net.au>; <writelog@contesting.com>
>>|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 21:43
>>|Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>|
>>|
>>|> Graeme,
>>|>
>>|> My experience has shown that WL does not support Cabrillo for every
>>|contest.
>>|> This has always bugged me as it seems that it should be a standard
>>
>output
>
>>|> for every contest. Not so.
>>|>
>>|> Gud luck,
>>|> Don VE3BUC
>>|>
>>|> |-----Original Message-----
>>|> |From: writelog-admin@contesting.com
>>|> |[mailto:writelog-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Bracht vk4dz
>>|> |Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:39 PM
>>|> |To: writelog@contesting.com
>>|> |Subject: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>|> |
>>|> |
>>|> |
>>|> |Hello All
>>|> |              Sorry to ask but only had the program for 1 week so
>>|> |still learning.The cabrillo option in the "contest" drop down menu
>>|> |is not available. (greyed out)  And if you go to the "export" menu
>>|> |cabrillo is greyed out here also.So how do i do the for the volta
>>|contest.
>>|> |Thanks in advance
>>|> |Graeme vk4dz
>>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 4
>Reply-To: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@starlinx.com>
>From: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <SteveBaron@starlinx.com>
>To: <doncassel@compuserve.com>, "Dave L Thompson" <k4jrb@juno.com>
>Cc: <writelog@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:55:04 -0000
>
>Even with the ARRL contests, the format is not constant.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Dave L Thompson" <k4jrb@juno.com>
>To: <doncassel@compuserve.com>
>Cc: <writelog@contesting.com>
>Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 19:19
>Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>
>
>>Cabrillo was originally designed for ARRL Contests (that is why the ARRL
>>Section).  However CQ and other contests have adopted it as it provides a
>>standard format (see www.kkn.net).  This means the contest checking
>>software can be easily set up to provide an impersonal test of each log.
>>
>>There is no one contest logging program that can satisfy all needs.  I
>>like Writelog as its written for windows and uses windows conventions. 
>>Sure its feature rich so not always easy to use especially if you are
>>using CW/RTTY/SSB keying etc and complete rig control.   Every contest
>>does not require cabrillo that is why sometimes cabrillo output is not
>>active.  By adding the WT4I contest tools you can convert ALL logs to
>>cabrillo in a good format.  Please don't attempt to homebrew cabrillo as
>>the checkers will probably have to re-convert anyway.
>>
>>Writelog is a works in process as is any logging program...want new
>>features or a contest added...just get it in the list and stay tuned!
>>
>>73 Dave K4JRB
>>
>>>Interesting comments. It seems that the new "Standard" is not really
>>>standard at all. I think the difference would only be in the fields
>>>required. ie. some would require a QSO # field others would not but 
>>>the way
>>>a field is defined would be the same for all. Thus a Cabrillo file 
>>>could be
>>>produced for each contest which contains only the fields required 
>>>for that
>>>contest. That would be independent of whether the contest sponsor 
>>>specifies
>>>the need for a Cabrillo file. Writelog would just create the file 
>>>with the
>>>available fields. A no-brainer.
>>>
>>>The problem with WLs approach is that every time a contest sponsor 
>>>decides
>>>to require Cabrillo then Writelog needs to create a new release of 
>>>the
>>>software.
>>>
>>>Don't get me wrong. I like Writelog a lot and use it for most of my
>>>contesting. It has mostly great qualities and this is just the 1% 
>>>that irks
>>>me.
>>>
>>>Don VE3BUC
>>>
>>>|-----Original Message-----
>>>|From: stevebaron@starlinx.com [mailto:stevebaron@starlinx.com]
>>>|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:20 PM
>>>|To: Don Cassel
>>>|Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>>|
>>>|
>>>|
>>>|Definitely not so.
>>>|
>>>|The Cabrillo file format IS NOT the same for every contest.
>>>|
>>>|It is the responsibility of the contest sponsor to specify the 
>>>format ...
>>>|then the logging programs can produce the file.
>>>|
>>>|----- Original Message -----
>>>|From: "Don Cassel" <doncassel@compuserve.com>
>>>|To: "Graeme Bracht vk4dz" <fab1@uq.net.au>; 
>>><writelog@contesting.com>
>>>|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 21:43
>>>|Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>>|
>>>|
>>>|> Graeme,
>>>|>
>>>|> My experience has shown that WL does not support Cabrillo for 
>>>every
>>>|contest.
>>>|> This has always bugged me as it seems that it should be a 
>>>standard output
>>>|> for every contest. Not so.
>>>|>
>>>|> Gud luck,
>>>|> Don VE3BUC
>>>|>
>>>|> |-----Original Message-----
>>>|> |From: writelog-admin@contesting.com
>>>|> |[mailto:writelog-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Bracht 
>>>vk4dz
>>>|> |Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:39 PM
>>>|> |To: writelog@contesting.com
>>>|> |Subject: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>>|> |
>>>|> |
>>>|> |
>>>|> |Hello All
>>>|> |              Sorry to ask but only had the program for 1 week 
>>>so
>>>|> |still learning.The cabrillo option in the "contest" drop down 
>>>menu
>>>|> |is not available. (greyed out)  And if you go to the "export" 
>>>menu
>>>|> |cabrillo is greyed out here also.So how do i do the for the 
>>>volta
>>>|contest.
>>>|> |Thanks in advance
>>>|> |Graeme vk4dz
>>>|> |
>>>|> |
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>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|
>>>
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>
>Message: 5
>From: "Gil Baron" <gbaron@charter.net>
>To: "Jim Brannigan" <jbrannig@optonline.net>,
>   "Don Cassel" <doncassel@compuserve.com>, <writelog@contesting.com>
>Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 16:32:39 -0500
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: writelog-admin@contesting.com
>>[mailto:writelog-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Jim Brannigan
>>Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 3:00 PM
>>To: Don Cassel; writelog@contesting.com
>>Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>
>>
>>Someone has got to pay for the programming.
>>W/L has the major contests covered.
>>I don't want to pay for the Upper Slobovian Yodelers club annual sprint
>>Cabrillo module.
>>Perhaps they could be made available, at extra cost, for those interested.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>
>BUT he could do this once (LIKE TRLOG) and make a way to allow EASILY a USER
>to configure almost any contest. The best way to do it would be a GUI where
>you could set up almost any parameter you could think of. Once this is done
>anyone can do it without being a C++ programmer or buying the VERY expensive
>C++ Visual from Microsoft.
>
>If not that, then commands in an in file which is what TRLOG does.
>
>Until that happens WriteLog IMHO anyhow is NOT complete.
>
>I do NOT expect him to program every contest, as you say that would not be
>reasonable, but an interface for the user (NOT THE CONTEST WIZARD) would be.
>
>The program itself is by far the best contest program out there for windows
>for the supported contests.
>
>
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Don Cassel" <doncassel@compuserve.com>
>>To: <writelog@contesting.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 07:35
>>Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>
>>
>>>Interesting comments. It seems that the new "Standard" is not really
>>>standard at all. I think the difference would only be in the fields
>>>required. ie. some would require a QSO # field others would not but the
>>>
>>way
>>
>>>a field is defined would be the same for all. Thus a Cabrillo file could
>>>
>>be
>>
>>>produced for each contest which contains only the fields
>>>
>>required for that
>>
>>>contest. That would be independent of whether the contest sponsor
>>>
>>specifies
>>
>>>the need for a Cabrillo file. Writelog would just create the
>>>
>>file with the
>>
>>>available fields. A no-brainer.
>>>
>>>The problem with WLs approach is that every time a contest
>>>
>>sponsor decides
>>
>>>to require Cabrillo then Writelog needs to create a new release of the
>>>software.
>>>
>>>Don't get me wrong. I like Writelog a lot and use it for most of my
>>>contesting. It has mostly great qualities and this is just the 1% that
>>>
>>irks
>>
>>>me.
>>>
>>>Don VE3BUC
>>>
>>>|-----Original Message-----
>>>|From: stevebaron@starlinx.com [mailto:stevebaron@starlinx.com]
>>>|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:20 PM
>>>|To: Don Cassel
>>>|Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>>|
>>>|
>>>|
>>>|Definitely not so.
>>>|
>>>|The Cabrillo file format IS NOT the same for every contest.
>>>|
>>>|It is the responsibility of the contest sponsor to specify the
>>>
>>format ...
>>
>>>|then the logging programs can produce the file.
>>>|
>>>|----- Original Message -----
>>>|From: "Don Cassel" <doncassel@compuserve.com>
>>>|To: "Graeme Bracht vk4dz" <fab1@uq.net.au>; <writelog@contesting.com>
>>>|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 21:43
>>>|Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>>|
>>>|
>>>|> Graeme,
>>>|>
>>>|> My experience has shown that WL does not support Cabrillo for every
>>>|contest.
>>>|> This has always bugged me as it seems that it should be a standard
>>>
>>output
>>
>>>|> for every contest. Not so.
>>>|>
>>>|> Gud luck,
>>>|> Don VE3BUC
>>>|>
>>>|> |-----Original Message-----
>>>|> |From: writelog-admin@contesting.com
>>>|> |[mailto:writelog-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Graeme
>>>
>>Bracht vk4dz
>>
>>>|> |Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:39 PM
>>>|> |To: writelog@contesting.com
>>>|> |Subject: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>>|> |
>>>|> |
>>>|> |
>>>|> |Hello All
>>>|> |              Sorry to ask but only had the program for 1 week so
>>>|> |still learning.The cabrillo option in the "contest" drop down menu
>>>|> |is not available. (greyed out)  And if you go to the "export" menu
>>>|> |cabrillo is greyed out here also.So how do i do the for the volta
>>>|contest.
>>>|> |Thanks in advance
>>>|> |Graeme vk4dz
>>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>WriteLog mailing list
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>>
>
>
>
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>Message: 6
>From: "Ron K5DJ" <k5dj@austin.rr.com>
>To: <writelog@contesting.com>
>Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:36:21 -0000
>Subject: [WriteLog] Update 10.32E,  Ready
>
>                   10.32E now ready to download..
>
> What's new in 10.32E:
>
> Doesn't dupe a QSO that has been marked with an 'X'.
>
> Support comm ports above COM9 using the CommSlot entry in WRITELOG.INI.
>
> Add TUNE command.
>
> Networking is much more tolerant of mismatched exchanges between
>stations
> on the network. It matches up exchanges by column names and field
>settings
> (numbers, lowercase, etc.) Networking also displays messages in a
>window
> you can close as well as iconize.
>
> Band decoding switches 100KHz below the lower band boundary.
>
> Add "Auto Scroll" button to packet spot window.
>
> Network status window can now be closed, and there is an entry in the
> Tools menu to re-open it.
>
> Band Summary window now adjusts itself wider if the scores get too wide
> for their columns.
>
>            http://www.writelog.com/downloads/WL1032EUPG.ZIP
>
>  73, de Ron K5DJ
>
>
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>
>Message: 7
>From: "John - vk4cej" <vk4cej@uq.net.au>
>To: <writelog@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 20:06:14 +1000
>
>"the Upper Slobovian Yodelers club annual sprint"   hey Jim, what date is
>thei one on ??
>
>John (contest junkie with big grin)
>
>
>
>>Someone has got to pay for the programming.
>>W/L has the major contests covered.
>>I don't want to pay for the Upper Slobovian Yodelers club annual sprint
>>Cabrillo module.
>>Perhaps they could be made available, at extra cost, for those interested.
>>
>>Jim
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Don Cassel" <doncassel@compuserve.com>
>>To: <writelog@contesting.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 07:35
>>Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>
>>
>>>Interesting comments. It seems that the new "Standard" is not really
>>>standard at all. I think the difference would only be in the fields
>>>required. ie. some would require a QSO # field others would not but the
>>>
>>way
>>
>>>a field is defined would be the same for all. Thus a Cabrillo file could
>>>
>>be
>>
>>>produced for each contest which contains only the fields required for
>>>
>that
>
>>>contest. That would be independent of whether the contest sponsor
>>>
>>specifies
>>
>>>the need for a Cabrillo file. Writelog would just create the file with
>>>
>the
>
>>>available fields. A no-brainer.
>>>
>>>The problem with WLs approach is that every time a contest sponsor
>>>
>decides
>
>>>to require Cabrillo then Writelog needs to create a new release of the
>>>software.
>>>
>>>Don't get me wrong. I like Writelog a lot and use it for most of my
>>>contesting. It has mostly great qualities and this is just the 1% that
>>>
>>irks
>>
>>>me.
>>>
>>>Don VE3BUC
>>>
>>>|-----Original Message-----
>>>|From: stevebaron@starlinx.com [mailto:stevebaron@starlinx.com]
>>>|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:20 PM
>>>|To: Don Cassel
>>>|Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>>|
>>>|
>>>|
>>>|Definitely not so.
>>>|
>>>|The Cabrillo file format IS NOT the same for every contest.
>>>|
>>>|It is the responsibility of the contest sponsor to specify the format
>>>
>...
>
>>>|then the logging programs can produce the file.
>>>|
>>>|----- Original Message -----
>>>|From: "Don Cassel" <doncassel@compuserve.com>
>>>|To: "Graeme Bracht vk4dz" <fab1@uq.net.au>; <writelog@contesting.com>
>>>|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 21:43
>>>|Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>>|
>>>|
>>>|> Graeme,
>>>|>
>>>|> My experience has shown that WL does not support Cabrillo for every
>>>|contest.
>>>|> This has always bugged me as it seems that it should be a standard
>>>
>>output
>>
>>>|> for every contest. Not so.
>>>|>
>>>|> Gud luck,
>>>|> Don VE3BUC
>>>|>
>>>|> |-----Original Message-----
>>>|> |From: writelog-admin@contesting.com
>>>|> |[mailto:writelog-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Graeme Bracht
>>>
>vk4dz
>
>>>|> |Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:39 PM
>>>|> |To: writelog@contesting.com
>>>|> |Subject: [WriteLog] Cabrillo
>>>|> |
>>>|> |
>>>|> |
>>>|> |Hello All
>>>|> |              Sorry to ask but only had the program for 1 week so
>>>|> |still learning.The cabrillo option in the "contest" drop down menu
>>>|> |is not available. (greyed out)  And if you go to the "export" menu
>>>|> |cabrillo is greyed out here also.So how do i do the for the volta
>>>|contest.
>>>|> |Thanks in advance
>>>|> |Graeme vk4dz
>>>
>>
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>Message: 8
>From: "Bob Henderson" <bob@cytanet.com.cy>
>To: <writelog@contesting.com>
>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 05:57:19 -0000
>Subject: [WriteLog] Bandmap problem
>
>For sometime I have been unable to make my band map work.  I had assumed I
>had managed to screw a file or something but I have reinstalled WL at 10.32E
>and find I still have the same problem.
>
>I can open the band map window but apart from a large pointer centre left
>the window stays blank.  No frequency scale is shown despite my rig being
>connected with its frequency correctly indicated on the button next to the
>logging line.  If I try to force a call to be added to the band map window
>nothing happens either.
>
>Can someone give me a clue on what I should do to make this thing work
>again!
>
>Thanks
>
>73
>
>Bob 5B4AGN
>
>
>
>
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