[WriteLog] WriteLog Digest, Vol 132, Issue 25
nrsmith
nrsmith at citlink.net
Mon Dec 30 12:31:00 EST 2013
Anyone have the address for the full version of Writelog?
w4gkm
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> 1. 2Tone Update Version 13.12a (Don Hill AA5AU)
> 2. writelof cw speed reception configuration (G)
> 3. CW transmit FREQUENCY from radio (G)
> 4. Re: CW transmit FREQUENCY from radio (Gary AL9A)
> 5. CTY-2312 Country Files - 29 December 2013 (Jim Reisert AD1C)
> 6. Re: WriteLog Digest, Vol 132, Issue 24 (NR Smith)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 12:52:09 -0600
> From: "Don Hill AA5AU" <aa5au at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'WriteLog'" <writelog at contesting.com>
> Subject: [WriteLog] 2Tone Update Version 13.12a
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> A new updated version of 2Tone has been released (version 13.12a). It can
> be downloaded from the Downloads Page on
> rttycontesting.com:
>
> http://www.rttycontesting.com/downloads/downloads.html
>
> 73, Don AA5AU
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:51:01 -0500
> From: G <rigel001 at sympatico.ca>
> To: <writelog at contesting.com>
> Subject: [WriteLog] writelof cw speed reception configuration
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> In the pass I asked that question & based on the answer today during RAC
> contest I modified the ini file fpr cw reception.
>
> I used this (CW_MIN=12 and also 15 ) but readind became erratic.
>
> Returned to CW_MIN=20 and it is ok.
>
>
>
> But in setup section / port / cw speed section on that page we can reduce
> speed to 7 wpm but my target is nothing less than 12 wpm.
>
> I tried it but there is no change and it does'nt reed under 20 wpm or
> close.
>
>
>
> Is there some one ever tried that and succeeded
>
> Gilles ve2lx
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 15:05:05 -0500
> From: G <rigel001 at sympatico.ca>
> To: <writelog at contesting.com>
> Subject: [WriteLog] CW transmit FREQUENCY from radio
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> With my icom-ic 7600 the xmit freq is 600 hz tone and the receive freq
> tone
> (if the cw pitch button is in the center position ) is about 750 hz so
> there
> is an offset of 200 hz.
>
> If I modify the cw pitch evrething change with the same offset.
>
> I tried to modify the ini file to CW_XMIT_FREQ=700 to have a 100 hz
> instead
> but it does'nt change.
>
> Can we change the radio TRX freq from Writelog or in the radio ? on my
> system it seems not to work.
>
> What is the most popular CW offset?
>
> Gilles ve2lx
>
> ============
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>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 15:44:06 -0900
> From: "Gary AL9A" <al9a at mtaonline.net>
> To: <writelog at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] CW transmit FREQUENCY from radio
> Message-ID: <C7DC4C18BBD044CBA08E5104AB49EAC9 at AL9APC>
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>
> Gilles,
>
> I have my ini file set to CW_XMIT_FREQ=700 too. To get the IC-7600 closer
> to this setting do the following. Press the EXIT/SET button to get to a
> clear screen on the radio. Now press and hold the FILTER button for 2
> seconds and a graph will open on screen showing your filter center
> frequency
> and the bandwidth skirts for the selected filter. Turn the CW PITCH knob
> a
> bit until the center frequency number equals 700. Now push the FILTER
> button again to check the settings on the next filter. Again, change the
> CW
> PITCH to 700 Hz. Do the same for the third filter. When all have 700 Hz
> as
> the center frequency push the EXIT/SET button go get back to the main
> screen. You can now display the SCOPE or anything else you want.
>
> Now when I transmit CW the WriteLog CW Receiver shows a slight offset on
> the
> transmit frequency. By clicking on the signal with the mouse the yellow
> vertical line changes position and the Rx frequency shows 674, quite a bit
> closer to the 700 Hz setting in the ini file and CW Pitch settings. For
> me
> this is not a problem.
>
> 73,
> Gary AL9A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: G
> Sent: December 28, 2013 11:05 AM
> To: writelog at contesting.com
> Subject: [WriteLog] CW transmit FREQUENCY from radio
>
> With my icom-ic 7600 the xmit freq is 600 hz tone and the receive freq
> tone
> (if the cw pitch button is in the center position ) is about 750 hz so
> there
> is an offset of 200 hz.
>
> If I modify the cw pitch evrething change with the same offset.
>
> I tried to modify the ini file to CW_XMIT_FREQ=700 to have a 100 hz
> instead
> but it does'nt change.
>
> Can we change the radio TRX freq from Writelog or in the radio ? on my
> system it seems not to work.
>
> What is the most popular CW offset?
>
> Gilles ve2lx
>
> ============
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:24:30 -0700
> From: Jim Reisert AD1C <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu>
> To: WriteLog <writelog at contesting.com>
> Subject: [WriteLog] CTY-2312 Country Files - 29 December 2013
> Message-ID:
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>
> The Country (CTY) Files were updated on 29 December 2013:
>
> http://www.country-files.com/cty-2312-29-December-2013/
>
> For installation instructions, start at:
>
> http://www.country-files.com/
>
> Hover your mouse over the word Contest in the menu, then select the
> software you are using.
>
> To install the file, follow the link to your software at the top of the
> page.
>
> If you are interested in a bigger CTY.DAT for everyday logging, you can
> get
> it here:
>
> http://www.country-files.com/bigcty/
>
> Note that the release notes (and Version Entity) for this larger file are
> different than what is shown below. There is a separate link to them.
>
> Here are the release notes:
>
> 29 December 2013 (CTY-2312)
> VER20131229, Version entity is UK Base Areas on Cyprus, ZC4
>
> Added/changed Callsigns/prefixes:
>
> * JW2US is Bear Island, *JW/b
> * A61E/ND and A61K/ND are both United Arab Emirates, A6
> * A91ACC/GR is Bahrain, A9
> * CE9/UA4WHX is Chile, CE in ITU zone 16
> * VP8ADE and VP8ADE/B are both Antarctica, CE9 in ITU zone 73
> * IA/IZ3SUS is Antarctica, CE9 in CQ zone 29, ITU zone 70
> * OR4TN and RI1ANR are both Antarctica, CE9 in CQ zone 38, ITU zone 67
> * RI1ANC/A is Antarctica, CE9 in CQ zone 39, ITU zone 69
> * EA7URA/YOTA is Spain, EA
> * EA5RKB/6 is Balearic Islands, EA6
> * TO6D and TO8UFT are both Guadeloupe, FG
> * TO3JA is Martinique, FM
> * TO7CC is Reunion Island, FR
> * 2Z, G0FBJ, GB2ELH, GB2ZET, GB3LER, GB3LER/B, GB4LER, GB4SI, GZ and MZ
> are all Scotland, GM
> * I4CQO/N, II1RT/N, IZ0DBA/N, IZ1CLA/N and IZ1POA/N are all Italy, I
> * K7CS is in CQ zone 4, not CQ zone 5
> * N9NA is United States, K in CQ zone 3, ITU zone 6
> * AB2QH is Mariana Islands, KH0
> * KC6HOX, KC7ASJ, KD0MSD, KD0QLR, KD0WVZ, KF7TUU, KG6TFI, KJ6QQT,
> KJ6SKC,
> KL1TP, N0CAN, N7TSV, N7WBX and W7NX are all Hawaii, KH6
> * AF5S, KB7VFZ, KB7ZVZ, KB8SBG, KC7AFA, KC7AFC, KF7LUA, KH2YN, KI4WOI,
> KJ4ZWI, N8ZPO, N9UOM, NA7WM, W6TN and WH6CYY are all Alaska, KL
> * WI7C is US Virgin Islands, KP2
> * AF4OU, KB3BPK and KX5DX are all Puerto Rico, KP4
> * LU5XP/D and LU6FEC/T are both Argentina, LU
> * OH5LP/S, OH6CT/S, OH6G/S and OH6GSR/S are all Finland, OH
> * TA1BZ/2 and TA1HZ/2 are both Asiatic Turkey, TA
> * R95DOD, R95NRL, RA22 and UE22A are all European Russia, UA
> * R0000O is European Russia, UA in ITU zone 19
> * R2014I, RA22KO, RA22XA, RA22XF, RN22OG and RN22OV are all
> European Russia, UA in CQ zone 17, ITU zone 19
> * RV22PM is European Russia, UA in CQ zone 17, ITU zone 30
> * RD22FU and RJ22DX are both Kaliningrad, UA2
> * R2014Y, R22BIA, R22SKE, R22SKJ, RA22MX, RA22QF, RT22MC, RT22MD,
> RU22AZ,
> RU22CR, RU22LR, RW22MW, RW22QA, RW22QC, RY22MC and RY22RZ are
> all Asiatic Russia, UA9
> * RT22TK, RT22WF, RU22WZ, RV22WB and RX22WN are all Asiatic
> Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 16
> * R9/UN7JMO, RT22UA and RZ22WW are all Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ
> zone 18, ITU zone 31
> * RT22SA is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 18, ITU zone 32
> * RW22WR is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 19, ITU zone 23
> * RT22CT is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 19, ITU zone 33
> * RW22GO is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 19, ITU zone 34
> * RT22ZS is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 19, ITU zone 35
> * VE3GNO/2 is Canada, VE in ITU zone 4
> * VE9TEN/5 is Canada, VE in CQ zone 4, ITU zone 3
> * RI20ANT and RI44ANT are both South Shetland Islands, VP8/h
>
> Retired Callsigns/prefixes:
>
> * 3V8CB/J in Tunisia, 3V
> * 7O2A in Yemen, 7O
> * 9M4CBP in East Malaysia, 9M6
> * RI1ANT in Antarctica, CE9
> * EA6AKN/5, EA8BFH/1, EA8BFH/4 and EA9LZ/7 in Spain, EA
> * EA2SG/6 in Balearic Islands, EA6
> * EA5RKB/8 in Canary Islands, EA8
> * TO2TT in Mayotte, FH
> * TO4FM in Martinique, FM
> * TX5D in Austral Islands, FO/a
> * TO1A in French Guiana, FY
> * 2T in Isle of Man, GD
> * 2N, GB2SDD and GB4CS in Northern Ireland, GI
> * 2H in Jersey, GJ
> * GB0BSS, GB1ASC, GB1FHS and GB4PAS in Scotland, GM
> * 2P and GB2JTA in Guernsey, GU
> * 2Y, GB0TS, GB1AD and GB6SPD in Wales, GW
> * IQ5AA/J, IQ5AE/J, IQ5LV/J and IW5DAX/J in Italy, I
> * JD1YAA in Minami Torishima, JD/m
> * AJ6K in Mariana Islands, KH0
> * K6JAE, KB2MRY, KD7UAV, KI6NOC, KK4EEC and N5NNK in Hawaii, KH6
> * AB9OH in American Samoa, KH8
> * KC0OKQ, KF5FJQ, KJ4PSV, KP4X, KW1W, W7ROS and WB6COP in Alaska, KL
> * KF5PWC in Puerto Rico, KP4
> * LU1APR/D, LU1ARG/D, LU1BCE/D, LU1CL/D, LU1DAR/D, LU1DNQ/D, LU1DP/D,
> LU1DU/D, LU1EEE/D, LU1EQU/D, LU1HPW/H, LU1IAL/I, LU1JCE/J,
> LU1VBC/V, LU1VDF/V,
> LU1XP/XP, LU1YDC/Y, LU1YY/Y, LU2EIT/D, LU2ELT/D, LU2HEQ/H,
> LU2IP/I, LU2WA/W,
> LU3ARE/D, LU3AYE/D, LU3DK/D, LU3DPH/D, LU3DQJ/D, LU3DYN/D,
> LU3FV/F, LU3HAZ/H,
> LU3HE/H, LU3VAL/V, LU3XUC/XP, LU3XUJ/XP, LU4BR/D, LU4DBL/D,
> LU4DCY/D, LU4DGC/D,
> LU4DK/D, LU4DQ/D, LU4EJS/V, LU4EOU/D, LU4FM/F, LU4GO/GA, LU4JJ/J,
> LU4TC/T,
> LU4XPE/XP, LU5ANL/D, LU5DHE/D, LU5DJE/D, LU5EH/D, LU5EHC/D,
> LU5HLR/Y, LU5JU/J,
> LU5XWA/XP, LU5YF/V, LU6EEG/D, LU6EGO/D, LU6EPE/D, LU6EVD/D,
> LU6VEO/Y, LU6VM/Y,
> LU7CAW/D, LU7DAF/D, LU7DSS/D, LU7EMA/D, LU7FJ/F, LU7FM/F,
> LU7HCS/H, LU7HEO/H,
> LU7XSC/XP, LU7YCL/Y, LU7YP/Y, LU8ARI/D, LU8DLD/D, LU8EAG/D,
> LU8EHV/D, LU8FAB/F,
> LU8HBX/H, LU8KE/K, LU8YMP/Y, LU9AOS/D, LU9DF/D, LU9DKO/D,
> LU9EI/D, LU9IBJ/I,
> LU9JMG/J, LW1DQQ/D, LW1DVB/D, LW1DXH/D, LW1ELI/D, LW1EQI/D,
> LW1HBD/H, LW2DET/D,
> LW2DRJ/J, LW3DJC/D, LW3DKO/D, LW3DN/D, LW5DOG/D, LW5DR/D,
> LW5DUS/D, LW6HAM/H,
> LW7EDH/D, LW8EAG/D, LW8EVB/D and LW9EUU/D in Argentina, LU
> * PA3AFG/J, PA6JAM/J, PH9GFB/J and PI4BG/J in Netherlands, PA
> * SY2AEI/J in Greece, SV
> * R863LC, R863LK and R863LX in European Russia, UA
> * UE75L in Asiatic Russia, UA9
> * VX9GHQ and VX9GJD in Canada, VE
> * VK9DAC in Lord Howe Island, VK9L
> * YU7RQ/FAIR in Serbia, YU
>
> 73 - Jim AD1C
>
> --
> Jim Reisert AD1C, <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.us
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 22:31:02 -0600
> From: "NR Smith" <nrsmith at citlink.net>
> To: <writelog at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] WriteLog Digest, Vol 132, Issue 24
> Message-ID: <2A222BADC6184B67848DC7AAF6665E45 at NickHP>
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> reply-type=original
>
> Thanks Gary I had forgotten about the later method. I will try that for
> him
> and myself. I had used that sometime ago but really did not have much
> luck
> with it. As far as sending I am not for sure how my friend is going to
> send. When I did use writelog for cw I was able to send with the keyboard
> using computer generated results.
>
> Thanks for reminding me of how to set cw up and maybe we can get it going.
>
> See you on the RTTY Roundup.
>
> 73,
> Nick
> w4gkm
>
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: newby install problem (Dean St. Hill)
> 2. CW decoding (NR Smith)
> 3. Re: CW decoding (Gary AL9A)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:20:27 -0400
> From: "Dean St. Hill" <dmsthill at gmail.com>
> To: Ger <ger at pa0aer.com>
> Cc: WriteLog Reflector <writelog at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] newby install problem
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>
> I would be tempted to uninstall and do a new installation. You need to
> ensure that you have an installer with the words "full" somewhere within
> it. I imagine this is what you are using but just in case.
>
> http://k9jy.com/blog/initial-setup/
> http://writelog.com/notes/version-11-installation-notes
>
> You do need to have the .net framework installed as well. Not sure - you
> may want to do a windows update and just make sure you have that
> installed.
>
> Other than that I can't think of much else. Choose a widely used module
> like like cqww and see what happens.
>
> Additionally - did you already put in your registration code??
>
> Also feel free to email directly based on the email you received with link
> to the software.
>
> Hope that helps but the problem is not really clear to me.
>
> Dean - 8P6SH
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Ger <ger at pa0aer.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>> I purchased the software a hour ago. But i can't start the sw. I try to
>> start WriteL32.exe.
>>
>> Than I see the box and give the command to write a new log.
>> But than the box disappears and that is it.
>>
>> My PC is a W7/64 and I run a lot of programs without any problem. Please
>> advice.
>>
>>
>> --
>> 73 de Ger, PA0AER
>> www.radio-amateur.nl and www.pa0aer.com
>> member of VERON, Surplus Radio Society and the Old Timers Club.
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
> *Dean St.Hill*
>
> *Counterpoint Consulting *
> *17 Ocean City*
> *St.Philip*
> *Barbados*
>
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> *246-416-5277*
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 17:05:13 -0600
> From: "NR Smith" <nrsmith at citlink.net>
> To: <writelog at contesting.com>
> Subject: [WriteLog] CW decoding
> Message-ID: <6CB3D2926022414FB6E4FA1AD13AC722 at NickHP>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>
> I have tried a few times to try and decode CW with Writelog but without
> much
> success. A few years ago I tried it using a PK-232 and it was fairly
> accurate but with the computer sound cards I don't have much luck.
>
> My reason for this posting and request is a friend is wanting to try and
> decode and send with Writelog and I am not sure how to advise him. I
> opened
> my big mouth and said it would do it and now I need to prove it. So you
> CW
> guys out there I need to know what is the best hardware to use for this.
>
> Any help in making me look good would be appreciated.
>
> Nick
> w4gkm
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 17:11:11 -0900
> From: "Gary AL9A" <al9a at mtaonline.net>
> To: <writelog at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] CW decoding
> Message-ID: <C4F87959183A45A9B8460B3857463D53 at AL9APC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Nick,
>
> You don't mention it, but what kind of CW decoding are you trying to
> accomplish? The standard decoding through the Rttyrite window or the
> multi-channel decoder found at Setup/CW Decoder...? The simpler one is to
> use the Rttyrite window.
>
> Go to Setup/Ports and identify a COM port to be used for CW. It cannot be
> the one used for rig control so you need at least two different COM ports.
> Check the appropriate COM port in the CW column and leave the Rig Type set
> to No Rig and the other settings at the defaults. In the CW keyer type
> drop
> box select either a supported external keyer or PC generates. Of course
> this only affects sending, not receiving. The PC generates is a poor
> choice
> under Windows because of background system interference that can
> periodically lead to stuttering when sending from a memory buffer. Use it
> if you have no other keyer option.
>
> To receive CW g0o to Window/RTTY Window. It's a bit confusing because the
> "RTTY Window" opens Rttyrite which can be used for either CW or RTTY. On
> the Rttyrite window menu bar select Port and select None - you don't need
> a
> COM port to receive CW, only to send. The click on the Mode item and
> select
> CW. Now go to the TU type item and select Sound Board AFSK. The screen
> will probably start to fill with random gibberish characters. You should
> also now see the small WriteLog CW Receiver window open. You can use the
> min and max settings to set the range of CW speeds to decode - I use 20
> and
> 40.
>
> Now tune around the CW portion of the band and see if you can decode a
> good
> signal. If you have the Super Check Partial setup calls within that file
> should be highlighted in either green or yellow, indicating a good call or
> a
> mult. That's pretty much it for CW setup. Good luck.
>
> 73,
> Gary AL9A
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NR Smith
> Sent: December 27, 2013 2:05 PM
> To: writelog at contesting.com
> Subject: [WriteLog] CW decoding
>
>
> I have tried a few times to try and decode CW with Writelog but without
> much
> success. A few years ago I tried it using a PK-232 and it was fairly
> accurate but with the computer sound cards I don't have much luck.
>
> My reason for this posting and request is a friend is wanting to try and
> decode and send with Writelog and I am not sure how to advise him. I
> opened
> my big mouth and said it would do it and now I need to prove it. So you
> CW
> guys out there I need to know what is the best hardware to use for this.
>
> Any help in making me look good would be appreciated.
>
> Nick
> w4gkm
>
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