[WriteLog] Fwd: [cwops] Packet spots

Kevin Rowett kevin at rowett.org
Mon Nov 9 23:16:48 EST 2020


yes!  I find XIT, or slight adjustment of the big knob to help tremendously in getting to the top (bottom?) of a pileup, in a contest.

But, I’d NOT like the SW to do that for me.

In fact, we had a bit of discussion about that on the internal K4 eng list.  Someone was advocating the K4 do that, as part of the radio.  Nooooooo.

73, K6TD


> On Nov 9, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Alan Maenchen <ad6e at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> I posted the note below on the CWops reflector about XIT offset for the
> "click n shoot" crowd.
> N4ZR then said that N1MM has such a feature built in (option). I'm not
> pushing for it, but wondering if WL does something similar. I haven't
> looked for it but then there's a lot that I don't know. Just curious.
> 
> Personally, I think part of effective operating in a pileup situation is
> choosing your TX frequency such that you stand out in a crowd. That's
> something you learn. Personally, I move the main VFO manually to offset
> myself from others rather than use the XIT knob. But, that knob is there
> and having some automatic offset might be a good thing... only for jumping
> on a packet spot.
> 
> 73, Alan  AD6E / KH6TU
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Pete Smith <n4zr at comcast.net>
> Date: Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 5:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [cwops] Packet spots
> To: <main at cwops.groups.io>
> 
> 
> Many N1MM+ users are aware of this, but there is an option in the Telnet
> window to automatically offset your transmission from the spot frequency by
> a random small amount - should help.
> 
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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> On 11/9/2020 5:59 PM, Alan AD6E wrote:
> 
> Need to get this off my chest - I apologize in advance for this complaint.
> It was a great SS but ...
> 
> I love getting spotted and the resulting pileup. BUT there is a serious
> problem with the "click and shoot" crowd where they don't think about what
> it's like on the other end. Even a small pile of two or three on exactly
> the same frequency is near impossible to copy anyone. Signal strength alone
> is sometimes good enough to copy the loud one, but usually they stack up at
> close enough strength that it's impossible to copy. Yes, I do ride the RF
> gain control when I can and that helps but my hearing isn't what it used to
> be.
> 
> PLEASE!  Set your XIT to some random offset .. plus or minus. The easy copy
> signals are the ones as far from the crowd as possible and still within my
> bandwidth (400-500 Hz).  Unfortunately, not many of those. I know some like
> to use really narrow filters so deciding what offset to use is a crap
> shoot.  See what works. An offset of zero does NOT work.
> 
> That said, I caught myself a few times zero beating. Some self-flagellation
> is in order.
> 
> Aloha, Alan  AD6E / KH6TU
> 
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