[WriteLog] Fwd: Fwd: [cwops] Packet spots

[Hal Kennedy]

Agree with Randy and others.  I ran the largest system engineering
department in the US.  Maybe the world.  One of the top five rules:  NEVER
intentionally introduce errors to "fix" something.  The rule of unintended
consequences can be brutal.

73
Hal N4GG


Agree!  I want to control this myself rather than have the software do it.
If implemented, it should be an optional setting.


K5ZD

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From: WriteLog <writelog-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Kevin Rowett
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 11:17 PM
To: Alan Maenchen <ad6e at arrl.net>
Cc: WriteLog Reflector <writelog at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Fwd: [cwops] Packet spots

yes!  I find XIT, or slight adjustment of the big knob to help tremendously
in getting to the top (bottom?) of a pileup, in a contest.

But, I’d NOT like the SW to do that for me.

In fact, we had a bit of discussion about that on the internal K4 eng
list.  Someone was advocating the K4 do that, as part of the radio.
Nooooooo.

73, K6TD


> On Nov 9, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Alan Maenchen <ad6e at arrl.net> wrote:
>
> I posted the note below on the CWops reflector about XIT offset for
> the "click n shoot" crowd.
> N4ZR then said that N1MM has such a feature built in (option). I'm not
> pushing for it, but wondering if WL does something similar. I haven't
> looked for it but then there's a lot that I don't know. Just curious.
>
> Personally, I think part of effective operating in a pileup situation
> is choosing your TX frequency such that you stand out in a crowd.
> That's something you learn. Personally, I move the main VFO manually
> to offset myself from others rather than use the XIT knob. But, that
> knob is there and having some automatic offset might be a good
> thing... only for jumping on a packet spot.
>
> 73, Alan  AD6E / KH6TU
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Pete Smith <n4zr at comcast.net>
> Date: Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 5:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [cwops] Packet spots
> To: <main at cwops.groups.io>
>
>
> Many N1MM+ users are aware of this, but there is an option in the
> Telnet window to automatically offset your transmission from the spot
> frequency by a random small amount - should help.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
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> RTTY activity worldwide.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
>
> On 11/9/2020 5:59 PM, Alan AD6E wrote:
>
> Need to get this off my chest - I apologize in advance for this complaint.
> It was a great SS but ...
>
> I love getting spotted and the resulting pileup. BUT there is a
> serious problem with the "click and shoot" crowd where they don't
> think about what it's like on the other end. Even a small pile of two
> or three on exactly the same frequency is near impossible to copy
> anyone. Signal strength alone is sometimes good enough to copy the
> loud one, but usually they stack up at close enough strength that it's
> impossible to copy. Yes, I do ride the RF gain control when I can and
> that helps but my hearing isn't what it used to be.
>
> PLEASE!  Set your XIT to some random offset .. plus or minus. The easy
> copy signals are the ones as far from the crowd as possible and still
> within my bandwidth (400-500 Hz).  Unfortunately, not many of those. I
> know some like to use really narrow filters so deciding what offset to
> use is a crap shoot.  See what works. An offset of zero does NOT work.
>
> That said, I caught myself a few times zero beating. Some
> self-flagellation is in order.
>
> Aloha, Alan  AD6E / KH6TU
>
>
>
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