SV: [WWYC] RE: Recording and language

Teemu [SMØWKA] teemu at sm0wka.com
Mon Aug 23 10:24:47 EDT 2004


My opinion to this mess is that 3V8BB in this case did very wrong...
There is no such thing as stealing frequency, thats pure rubbish. The
station who is using a frequency first is the one that has the
priviledge to use it. If you are interested in transmission on that
frequency you first politely ask "is this frequency in use" or "QRL ?"
or "can i use this frequency". This is plain gentlemanship and this is
how we should behave on the radio. If someone starts "stealing" a
frequency from someone else that guy is a total nut. Did 3V8BB ask "is
this frequency in use"? NO !

Please read theese fine words already written in 1928:

The Amateur is Gentlemanly ... he never knowlingly uses the air for his
own amusment in such a way as to lessen the pleasure of others. He
abides by the pledges given by his National Radio Realy League and the
government.

The Amateur is Loyal ... He keps his station abreast of science. It is
well and efficiently. His operating practice is clean and regular.

The amateur is Friendly ... Slow and patient sending when requested,
friendly advice and counsel to the beginner, kindly assistance and
cooperation for the broadcast listener, these are the marks of the
amateur spirit.

The Amateur is Balanced ... Radio is his hobby. He never allows it to
interfere with any of the duties he owes to his home, his job, his scool
or his community.

The Amateur is Patriotic ... His knowledge and his station  are always
ready for the service of his country and his community.

Paul M. Segal W9EEA in 1928 


73 Teemu SM0WKA-SM0W


> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Från: wwyc-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:wwyc-bounces at contesting.com] För zoltan.pitman at vodafone.com
> Skickat: den 23 augusti 2004 15:21
> Till: sm3wmv at hotmail.com; wwyc at contesting.com
> Ämne: RE: [WWYC] RE: Recording and language
> 
> 
> Gee YM... Cool off a bit Mike...
> 
> First of all, I haven't been to 3V8BB and YT1AD has never 
> scratched my back.
> 
> Second, Mario is right, in some countries you would have lost 
> your license for this language on radio, regardless if you 
> call someone "asshole" explicitly or implicitly. 
> 
> Third, if you call endless CQs and get no answer (like on 
> your tape), you are dead meat and your freq can be taken. 
> 
> Forth, if you have a dispute with someone else, do it 
> privately first, you might be able to learn from it and not 
> only embarass yourself... 
> 
> 73, 
> 
> zoli ha1ag
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wwyc-bounces at contesting.com
> > [mailto:wwyc-bounces at contesting.com]On
> > Behalf Of SM3WMV Mikael
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 11:59
> > To: wwyc at contesting.com
> > Subject: [WWYC] RE: Recording and language
> > 
> > 
> > Hello Mario!
> > 
> > Since you apperently think that I am lying in this issue I
> > will clearify my 
> > innocent. And you mentioning that me using a bad language and 
> > I should be 
> > QRT for a few month is just insane. "don't be an asshole" is 
> > not the same as 
> > "you are an asshole", or "you are an arsehole" (ass and 
> > arse)... asshole or 
> > arsehole really is not bad language, and you said "dont be an 
> > asshole" (not 
> > even direct abuse at 3V8BB).
> > 
> > I will now supply you with both the log, showing my exact
> > frequency and the 
> > slight difference of 1kHz is because of where I have the RIT. 
> > It is funny 
> > that you try to throw crap on me instead of being pissed on 
> the real 
> > crook...well, friends scratch eachothers back, or? Because I 
> > know you are a 
> > good friend with YT1AD. I mean, if a friend of mine behaved 
> > like that I 
> > would actually not protect his behaviour and look stupid 
> > myself, I would 
> > rather say that what he is doing is stupid.
> > 
> >    SEQ     DATE     TIME   FREQ   CALL          SNT RST ZONE  
> > P ZM COUNTRY   
> >       C PREF
> > 
> >    552  2004-07-10 1635    14242 ZS4TX         59  59  57    
> > 5    South 
> > Africa     ZS
> >    577             1646    14243 SP9PRO        59  59  28    
> > 3    Poland     
> >        SP
> >    578             1646    14243 N1BCL         59  59  8     
> > 5    United 
> > States    K
> >    579             1647    14243 IK0PHY        59  59  28    
> > 3    European 
> > Italy   I
> >    580             1647    14243 UX8ZA         59  59  29    
> > 3    Ukraine    
> >        UR
> >    581             1647    14243 3Z8Z          59  59  28    
> > 3    Poland     
> >        SP
> >    582             1648    14243 N8BEE         59  59  8     
> > 5    United 
> > States    K
> > ------ HERE IS WHERE 3V8BB CALLS on MY freq...
> >    583             1650    14243 DJ1IJ         59  59  28    
> > 3    Fed. Rep. 
> > of G   DL
> >    584             1650    14243 UX4UA         59  59  29    
> > 3    Ukraine    
> >        UR
> >    585             1650    14243 UA3OQ         59  59  29    
> > 3    European 
> > Russi   UA
> >    586             1650    14243 PA0MIR        59  59  27    3    
> > Netherlands      PA
> >    587             1651    14243 SN0KAL        59  59  28    
> > 3    Poland     
> >        SP
> >    588             1652    14243 KL7DX         59  59  1     
> > 5 49 Alaska     
> >        KL
> >    589             1653    14243 EI4CF         59  59  27    
> > 3    Ireland    
> >        EI
> >    590             1654    14243 OK1RI         59  59  28    
> > 3    Czech 
> > Republic   OK
> >    591             1654    14243 ZD8I          59  59  66    
> > 5 50 Ascension 
> > I.     ZD8
> > 
> > And here you have a new file that shows 4 minutes before the
> > 3V8BB...but in 
> > fact if you want me to send the whole log I was on the 
> > frequency a couple of 
> > hours before, long enough for me cliaiming the frequency was 
> > "mine". And 
> > since you will probably complain about the small QSYing on 
> > the frequency 
> > aswell it was me checking who was making the QRM around me 
> > thinking it was 
> > LY7Z who I had a struggle with all weekend, right Andy ;-)
> > 
> > Throwing this debate into "my bad language" is just
> > redicioulus Mario...
> > 
> > Longer recording -> http://sm3w.m3php.net/sound/3v8bb_2.wav
> > Short recording   -> http://sm3w.m3php.net/sound/3v8bb.wav
> > 
> > Hope this will please you?
> > 
> > //Mike (SM3WMV // SM3W)
> > 
> > >From: "Marijan Miletic, S56A" <s56a at bit.si>
> > >To: <sm3wmv at hotmail.com>
> > >CC: "Dr. Hranislav Milosevic" <yt1ad at EUnet.yu>
> > >Subject: Recording and language
> > >Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 10:39:22 +0200
> > >
> > >YM, I'd give you few month QRT for your language at the
> > radio.  Could you
> > >provide 5 minutes recording before the 3V8BB clash.
> > >
> > >73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU, 3V8BB occassionally
> > 
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