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[AMPS] Henry 8K at 1500 watts Out -- Warning Long

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Subject: [AMPS] Henry 8K at 1500 watts Out -- Warning Long
From: RFpower@radiodan.com (Radiodan W7RF)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:18:17 -0800
Ian,

You wrote,
>
> Therefore if you tune up at full power and then reduce the drive without
> touching the output network again, you're simply driving the operating
> point a smaller distance along the *same* load line. The load line
> itself doesn't move, so I don't think the loaded Q of the output network
> changes with drive level either.

I always notice a difference in tuning for for a given maximum at any
particular level.
Normally, when I tune my 3K Premier with 10-20 watts drive for maximum power
at this level, inevitably there will be a slight retune needed at full 100
watts drive.
Looking at your last statement, what's different? Is it the small plate
voltage drop causing a different plate load impedance at the full drive
level that makes for the change in tuning?


73, Dan Magro W7RF, (member SCDXC, SCCC)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-amps@contesting.com [mailto:owner-amps@contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of Ian White, G3SEK
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 2:16 PM
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: [AMPS] Henry 8K at 1500 watts Out -- Warning Long
>
>
>
> Jim Reid wrote:
> >
> >Jim,  KH7M wrote,  in part:
> >
> >>>In fact,  with 100 watts into the 8K,  and it's 13 dB gain,  you will
> >>>get out around 2000 watts,  so better cut the drive in back until
> >>>the Bird in the 8K reads  no more than 1500 out with the key down,
> >>>SSB peaks.
> >
> >
> >Rich,  AG6K responded:
> >
> >>However, the tank of the Henry 8k is designed for a much lower RL --
> >>i.e., the tank is designed for 2.5a of anode current.  In order to
> >>produce this much anode current, c. 400w of drive is needed.
> >>>......
> >
> >And,  presumably under this plate current,  the QL, the
> >loaded Q of the tank will be something above 10,  or so.
> >
> >
> >However,   Rich has caused me to revert to Terman,  hi.
> [...]
> >So,  I see no harm to the 8K in operating it at low drive,
> >and constraining it's power output to legal limits,  where
> >it evidently provides very linear operation;  but at the
> >cost of probably very poor efficiency.
>
> Another way of looking at it is that the purpose of the tank circuit is
> to create a load line for the tube. It does that by transforming the 50
> ohm load impedance "backwards" up to typically a few k-ohms.
>
> As seen on the tube characteristic curves, the effect of the RF drive is
> to move the instanteneous operating point back and forth along the load
> line, once every RF cycle.
>
> Therefore if you tune up at full power and then reduce the drive without
> touching the output network again, you're simply driving the operating
> point a smaller distance along the *same* load line. The load line
> itself doesn't move, so I don't think the loaded Q of the output network
> changes with drive level either.
>
> 73 from Ian G3SEK          Editor, 'The VHF/UHF DX Book'
>                           'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
>                            http://www.ifwtech.demon.co.uk/g3sek
>
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