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Subject: [AMPS] Finally - a real amp
From: Doug Person" <w4dxv@ibm.net (Doug Person)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:02:01 -0400
Well, I opened up the AL-80A to see what had happened.  I was stunned.  I
expected to find a fried plate RF choke as Vic suggested. Instead, when I
removed the 3-500z, I first noticed the top inside surface of the glass had
a powdery substance on it in pattern not unlike the fins.  Then I discovery
the really interesting new characteristic of the tube.  There was a hole
clear through the glass as though it had been shot by a high-powered laser.
There are fine cracks around the hole and the glass had actually flowed
inward almost half an inch.  Wow.  Watch out for 17 meters on this baby.  I
guess I'll replace the choke before I put the new tube in.  I tried to order
a Taylor 3-500zg from RF Parts.  They were back-ordered, so I accepted their
RFP Special which I suppose is their Chinese version.

Doug -- W4DXV

----- Original Message -----
From: Vic Rosenthal <rakefet@rakefet.com>
To: amps <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AMPS] Finally - a real amp


>
> Doug Person wrote:
> >
> > That seems quite a bit less than what the manual suggests.  However, the
> > reduced power would hardly be noticable to anyone.  I wonder what the
> > affects of SSB would be rather than full carrier.  If I tune up the amp
> > using no more than the 400ma plate current and 65 watts drive, would
pushing
> > the power to 100 watts PEP input during normal SSB operations result in
> > additional stress on the 3-500z, or perhaps increase distortion?
>
> The single 3-500Z can be tuned and loaded to 550ma single tone (CW) for a
very
> short period in order to establish the correct operating conditions for
the peak
> of the SSB signal.  It should then be driven by no more than about 65w PEP
to
> give about 1000w PEP output.  Average plate current will be much less than
550
> MA.  However, when operating CW, the amp should be loaded to 400 MA
maximum!  I
> find that my SB1000 produces around 800 watts CW output with 400 MA plate
> current and around 125 MA grid current.
>
> > Now that I've gotton your input, I'm sorry to report that while tuning
the
> > AL-80A on 17 meters with 500ma ip and 150 ma of ig, A somewhat loud and
most
> > unpleasant noise ocurred within the amp after which there was no current
> > indicated for either ig or ip.  Did I fry the tube?
>
> You probably fried the plate RF choke which has a resonance near 17
meters.  You
> can order a replacement from Ameritron for about $25.  The one made for
the
> AL80B works properly on the WARC bands.  I have had one of these in my
SB-1000
> (which by the way is *very* similar to the AL80) for some time and it
works
> quite well on all bands, including WARC.
>
> 73,
> Vic, K2VCO
> Fresno CA
>
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