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[AMPS] s meter calibration

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Subject: [AMPS] s meter calibration
From: K0FF@ARRL.NET (K0FF)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:00:57 -0500
Larry, nice summary. In the "old days" things were a LOT simpler. ALL the
DXers in our area (St. Louis at the time) used the same (Collins) radios,
and at least once a year we would drag our receivers and Bird slugs to one
fellows house or the other and calibrate on the same instruments. Then when
we compared signal reading on HF via the 2M "DX tip-off Frequency", the only
variables were the antennas/feedlines/and locations.
George, K0FF
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Molitor <w7iuv@nis4u.com>
To: Ian White, G3SEK <g3sek@ifwtech.com>; amps@contesting.com
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Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AMPS] s meter calibration


>
>At 07:45 AM 6/13/00 +0100, Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
>>According to the lab reviews in the magazines, most modern receivers
>>seem to be calibrated so that the difference between S9 and S9+20 is
>>pretty close to 20dB. Below S9, the scale looks linear but the dB per S-
>>point is not! It typically takes many more dB to get from S2 to S3 than
>>it does to get from S8 to S0 - often less than 3dB per S-point at the
>>top end.
>>
>>It doesn't have to be that way - there are engineering solutions that
>>could easily deliver the full IARU specification - but when everybody on
>>HF is "five nine" anyway, who cares any more?
>>
>>73 from Ian G3SEK
>
>Ian and all,
>
>I gotta put my two cents worth in for this one and even tie it back to AMPS
>type topics.
>
>As has been said before, the manufacturers correctly assume that the
>majority of buyers are technical idiots. Have a S-meter that has 1 dB per
>S-unit and about 5 uV for S 9 is a good marketing thing. Besides it's a lot
>cheaper to build.
>
>I would hope that anyone who actually cares about such things would take
>the time to "calibrate" the meter on their store-bought radio. Since I do
>this with all my radios, I would not care to pay extra for a manufacture to
>make a feeble attempt at a real meter.
>
>Using a HP8648C generator (at 14.1 MHz) this last time, I produced the
>following chart for my FT1000D:
>
>S1 = -103.5 dBm
>S2 = -101.5 dBm
>S3 = -98 dBm
>S4 = -94 dBm
>S5 = -90 dBm
>S6 = -85 dBm
>S7 = -80 dBm
>S8 = -75 dBm
>S9 = -70 dBm
>+10 = -60 dBm
>+20 = -51 dBm
>+30 = -42 dBm
>+40 = -33 dBm
>+50 = -24 dBm
>
>As you can see, it's kinda poor at the bottom end, but quickly stabilizes
>at about 5 dB per S-unit. With S-9 being within 3 dB of 50 microvolts and 5
>dB per S-unit, this particular FT1000D has the best S-meter out of the 10
>or so radios I've checked.
>
>With a chart like this handy, it gives you a real good idea just how good
>the other guys antenna is or how much gain his amp really has. While the
>guy on the other end is usually an idiot and won't believe what you tell
>him, at least you will know for sure.
>
>Since it's so easy to do this, I'm surprised there aren't more folks with
>handy little charts for their radios. I know, not everyone has a room full
>of good test equipment. But I bet most people on this list know someone who
>does or has access to it one way or another. Give it a whirl, you might be
>amazed!
>
>73,
>
>Larry - W7IUV
>
>
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