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[Amps] Filtering capacitor in a HV PS

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Subject: [Amps] Filtering capacitor in a HV PS
From: Will Matney <craxd1@ezwv.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 10:15:26 -0400
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Geo,
Here's pretty much what I know on the subject going from the manufacturers point of view. Taking both sides from the component manufacturer and the OEM's. First, keep in mind that a choke input really shouldn't be used on SSB service by what I was taught, only a C input. In my opinion, I would use a C with a capacitance just as high as I would for a C input. The reason being is the changing inductance of L due to the varying DC load will allow more AC product to be at the output of the choke. In a C input, this would be a lesser value as C1 would deal with the AC first before the choke. Now the formula which Rich gave is correct in determining C for the capacitance value (70,000 / RL). The voltage rating however of X2 is something I don't quite agree with. This is due to some papers written in "Passive Component" magazine by the capacitor manufacturers. According to them, the dialectic is designed around a certain voltage for the capacitance needed. They said that by not using a capacitor close to its voltage value, the capacitance itself can change over time. Needless to say, this is very unwanted. I will have to try and dig this info up if I still have it as this is a printed magazine I get bi-monthly. A lot of this finds file 13. It could possibly be in an archive somehow at their website, I'm not sure. Now, I'm strongly thinking that one would be better off using a C with a voltage rating of only 1-1/2 X voltage. As Rich points out, the actual failure voltage is considerably more than the rating itself anyhow. I can also state from experience that a cap bank of two (2) 450 Vdc caps will withstand a +900 Vdc source on them for years too as I have seen it time and time again. I have actually seen + 1000 Vdc on only this same 900 Vdc setup without any pre-mature failure. I myself use 6 X 450 Vdc caps for 2500 Vdc with no premature failures. All electrolytics will fail over time as they age and the dialectic gives out. From what I've read and from general experience of 22+ years of making amps, I would have to concur with the capacitor manufacturers. Hopefully, I might locate this article, but if not, one might find something on the net about it.


Will Matney

Interesting information Will, Can you tell me what C is typical for a choke input?

Geo W7LFD


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