Re: [Amps] 3-500Z Recomendations

[R.Measures <r@somis.org>]

On Oct 2, 2004, at 10:18 AM, craxd wrote:

> I,m gonna go out on a limb here but here goes. Richardson Electronics 
> pulls the strings on the Eimac tubes now. They also own the brand 
> names Cetron and Amperex. They private label for everyone else too. 
> When you get a tube from either, you don't know where it's made at! 
> Knowing how Richardson does business, they're all probably from one 
> manufacturer in China. I know of one Chinese manufacturer now selling 
> direct here in the US who told me they were private labeling the 
> 3-500Z and would not tell me to whom! My guess was RF Parts or 
> Richardson. I do know most everything you'll get under Cetron is 
> either Russian or Chinese. Now, I hate to be hard on Richardson but I 
> know for a fact who they are and how they operate.

As I understand it, Eddie Richardson was made an offer he could not 
refuse by the DoJ after the they discovered that he had convinced 
Eimac-Varian to sign an exclusive distributor deal that would help him 
monopolize the Tx tube business.  The offer, pull in your horns or go 
to the slammer.  My guess is that Eddie does not control Chinese tube 
sales - - - yet.  It's called megalomania.

> I used to buy 1000's of tubes through their "shady" branch years ago 
> from a salesman named Bernie Guss. Bernie, told me everything that was 
> going on and who was who in both the legal and illegal business. 
> Richardson is the very reason you can not now buy a new receiving tube 
> of any type hardly as they were who bought out the GE plant down in 
> Owensburogh Kentucky. Myself and two others offered to buy out the 
> tube machinery lines for two models of tubes and Richardson flat out 
> refused to sell them. I asked the manager what would then happen to 
> the equipment. He said," It'll be put up in mothballs with dust 
> settling on it", if I recall correctly. This was done purely to raise 
> the price on receiving tubes and the price doubled shortly after that. 
> The GE plant is now named MPD and Richardson is the proud owner.
>
> What burns me about this, it's nothing but a monopoly, and the US 
> government is letting them by with it!

The current Administration is pro-business -- provided the business 
isn't openly advertising baby dolphin-rotissere backyard  barbeques.

> Just to put it bluntly, any name branded tube in the US, Richardson 
> controls the pricing on. I cant say that Merit (RF Parts) buys from 
> them but the tubes in big quantities has to come from somewhere.

My guess is that Merit is not in the waterbed with Eddie.

> The only glass tube manufacturers that are left are in either Russia 
> (Svetlana, Telsa), Yugoslavia (Phillips-EI) and China, with China 
> being the prodomanent one. Chinas prodomanence is due to one thing, 
> price!
>
> Will Matney
>
>
> The RF Parts/Taylor ZGs are excellent tubes.  I've had mine nearly two 
> years and they really take a beating!!  I run mine mostly in AM in my 
> Henry 3K-A and they just continue to pump out the power!!  Still 
> getting 2kW PEP from the Henry with ~100W drive...
> Joe,
> N3JI
>
>
> "R.Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote:
>
> On Oct 1, 2004, at 7:19 PM, Steven Cook wrote:
>
>
> > > Team,
> > >
> > > Anyone have data/idea/opinion on currently available 3-500Z fire 
> > > bottles. I believe Eimac stooped making them, but have seen the 
> > > Eimac part available albeit, at a high price; e.g., $250.00 and up.
>
> Eimac 3-500Zs that were manufactured in Salt Lake City in the 1990s 
> have a well-deserved reptutation for bad spotwelds in the anode 
> cooler. When the welds let go, the anode-cooler will touch the 
> grounded grid. The way to test for this problem is to slap the tube 
> down into one's palm. If the spotwelds are bad, the anode cooler will 
> bend. I have heard of no Chinese metal-anode tube with this problem. 
> Graphite-anode tubes have no anode welds, so they can not have this 
> problem.
>
>
> > > What about the Amprex, Phillips, or Chinese bottles available 
> > > through RF Parts, et al?
> > >
> > > Where is the best place to purchase 3-500Z these days?
> > >
> > > Should they be a matched pair if going into a TL-922A?
> > >
> > > Are the graphite plate tubes O.K.?
> > >
> > > Any comments, criticisms, concerns, attacks, cajoling would be 
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > WG7K
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