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Re: [Amps] Open letter

To: "Jeff Blaine" <keepwalking188@yahoo.com>, "Jim Monahan" <K1PX@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Open letter
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:26:33 -0500
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Interesting but you made one little mistake.

Im not the one that has a disagreement with Jeff/Harbach. Please follow 
along the next time and get the names straight. Not a very good 
salesmans performance.

Thanks
Carl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Blaine" <keepwalking188@yahoo.com>
To: "Jim Monahan" <K1PX@msn.com>
Cc: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Open letter


> Gentlemen,
>
> For context, let me say that I am a sales and management teams trainer
> by profession, and an engineer by training.  Which means that I do 
> have
> long experience from both the viewpoints of sales and engineering -
> typically these viewpoints are not the same.
>
> And I would like to say that Carl has a point - in that Jeff is very
> good at telling you what cannot be done.
> However, I beleive the issue here is that this approach, one of a
> somewhat conservative outlook, is very typical of the engineering
> outlook.  In my case, it's justified because I'm trying to get 20 
> pounds
> of goodies to fit into a 10 pound space.  It could be characterized as 
> a
> "under promise and over deliver" outlook.
>
> Jeff spent about 50 minutes with me on the phone the other day without
> asking for the order, or even a follow on.  [Bad boy, from a sales
> standpoint.]  But from a confidence building standpoint, following 
> that
> discussion I am 100.000% sure that what he were to supply me would 
> meet
> (and by a stretch, far exceed) the specs he is willing to sign up for.
> The guy clearly has his engineering hat on and was not looking to 
> close
> the sale.  I have corresponded with him on quite a few other subjects
> over the last year and found his replies informative and timely.
>
> The trouble as I see it is when a guy is in the marginal area, as I 
> am,
> where the union of conservative design and desired performance just
> cannot match due to the space restriction.  That can lead to 
> frustration
> simply because we as buyers want to hear that our dreams can be 
> manifest
> even if it means disregarding the physics we are constrained by.  Jeff
> will just not give me the "to get to x, you need to be willing to
> sacrifice y and z" kind of answer.  He is strictly conservative in his
> comments, construction and discussions.  Again, reflecting a pretty
> traditional engineering view point.  In my case, the $$ are mid range;
> but I really can appreciate the trouble guys who want to buy a "big 
> boy
> sized transformer" are running into.  The cost of entry onto the dance
> floor is really high...
>
> Having pontificated on those points, my suggestion to end the arguing
> and come back with facts would simply be to identify a competing 
> company
> that can meet Carl's performance and price goals.  So far I've not 
> found
> another guy that was willing to chat me up about my requirements as 
> Jeff
> did.  Absent another vendor who is willing and able to  provide  "a
> better deal" (be it price, performance, delivery, etc), the benefit of
> the doubt has to go to Jeff.  He's like the local hardware store in a
> small town.  The selection and price may not fit your needs exactly, 
> but
> he's a known entity and has a proven ability to deliver.
>
> Despite not being able to get the answer from him that I wanted
> (yet...), I do find his straight-forward approach refreshing in an era
> where "over promise and under deliver" is more of the typical case.
>
> My two cents...
>
> 73/jeff/ac0c
>
> Jim Monahan wrote:
>> I would like to add my testimony to indicate the satisfaction
>> I have had in my dealings with Harbach Electronics and Jeff.
>>
>> I have purchased several components for my older Heath equipment
>> and a spare 8877 pull tube for my AL-1500 which came with a 30 day
>> warranty at a very good price.
>>
>> All were delivered in a timely fashion and I had no problems with
>> any defects.
>>
>> Jim, K1PX
>>
>> K1PX at msn.com
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