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Re: [Amps] Building 833 Amplifier. Hints and Suggestions?

To: "'Greg Weinfurtner'" <weinfurt@ohio.edu>, "'Amplifier Reflector'" <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Building 833 Amplifier. Hints and Suggestions?
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:38:21 -0400
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Greg, 

Go to the library and get the 1980 (+/-) ARRL Handbook.  It 
has a 160/80/40 meter amplifier project based on a single 
grid driven 8833.  That should give you a good start on 
your project.  

I suspect the broadcast transmitter that used those 833s 
had a pair in parallel in the final modulated by a push- 
pull pair.  You will probably have an easier job making 
your pair work in parallel grid driven than trying to do 
a push-pull (link coupled) output unless you have the 
plug in tanks from something like a BC-610. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Greg Weinfurtner
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:19 PM
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] Building 833 Amplifier. Hints and Suggestions?
> 
> 
> Hi all,
>          I am new to the list so be kind! I went through all 
> of the threads 
> on amps@contesting.com concerning an amplifier using 833's 
> and pretty much 
> came up with very little usable information. Why 833's?  Why 
> do I still 
> deer hunt with a muzzle loader with just iron sites? Why do 
> people still 
> build tube regens?  Just 'cause I guess it is a challenge and 
> the 833 is a 
> magnificent looking tube all aglow!
> 
>          I was an Electronic Design Specialist for Ohio 
> University for over 
> 22+ years and have built a hybrid solid state 160 meter 
> SSB/CW 100 watt
> transceiver (Using a pair of 6146's) from the ground up, ( 
> http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~weinfurt/160mrindex.html 
> )including a 500 hz CW 
> filter. Age is mid 50's and was in Tube/Solid State transition during 
> college years. Yep, slip sticks to calculators to SMD's. BSS 
> (Bachelor of 
> Specialized Studies in Shortwave RF Engineering) is from 
> 1994, so that and 
> being an EDS helped keep me in the loop until I recently retired.
> 
>          I have all the parts to put together 160 meter single band 
> amplifier. I realize that it is a low mu tube of about 35, and would 
> probably not make a great grounded grid tube... but maybe at 
> 160 meters a 
> pair of them could reach legal limit with less than 100 watts input?
> 
>          I have 5 each of 833A pulls, with only 6 months of 
> use. I got 
> these from the engineer in charge and he said that usual pull 
> time is at 
> least over a year or unless some failure occurs.  But, the 
> owner of the 
> station demanded that he do it every 6 months no matter what 
> the condition 
> and he kept the 'like new' ones.  Yes they are old, 20 years or so.
> 
>          I would prefer help from someone who has actually 
> used the 833 in 
> some type of RF circuit.  But anyone with engineering 
> experience with a 
> behemoth of this type knowledge would be great!  I plan to 
> set up a web 
> page and with my progress to keep those helping informed of 
> my advancement 
> into the past!
> 
> Characteristics for the 833A are 
> at:  http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~weinfurt/833A.pdf
> 
> **************************************************************
> **********************
> Plan.
> 
> 1 Two of them in parallel or Push-Pull?
> 
> 2 Grid driven with a 55 ohm, 75 watt non-inductive resistor to ground.
> 
> 3 Pi output network or Pi L ? Or Link coupled output?
> 
> 4 Operation is CW and occasionally SSB. Bias voltage on 
> Cathode developed 
> across about 60v Zener to ground?
> 
> 5 Power supply is capable of 3000 VDC at 1 Amp.
> 
> 6 Forced air cooling up from pressurized bottom chassis to box on top 
> housing tubes and output components.
> 
> 7 Tubes mounted in vertical position. Heat sinks for pin connections.
> 
> 
> 
> Greg Weinfurtner AEE BSS
> NS8O
> 40192 State Route 689
> Meigs County
> Albany, Ohio 45710
> United States of America 
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