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Re: [Amps] 7-16 Din connectors'.

To: Jim Thomson <Jim.thom@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] 7-16 Din connectors'.
From: Roger <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:05:27 -0400
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Thanks for the clarification Jim.

I knew they weren't 7/16" but I kept hearing them referred to as 7/16ths 
around here (meaning locally).

73

Roger (K8RI)

Jim Thomson wrote:
> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:57:24 -0400
> From: Roger <sub1@rogerhalstead.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 'good engineering'
>
>
> Zeitler, Lane LT, FST-1 wrote:
>   
>> Better get busy constructing some heavy duty open wire feeders while you
>> are at to feed your antenna. I am thinking 8 gauge stranded would work
>> great, say, with 3 to 4 inch spacing. 
>>   
>>     
> LMR-600 and 7/16ths connectors should do it through HF, or get some 
> surplus 7/8" heliax. More than likely even PL259's would be sufficient 
> for 5KW.
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>   
>> Lane
>> Ku7i
>>     
>
> ##  for the record... it's called a  '7-16 DIN' connector.   It is NOT a 
> '7/16" connector! 
> The 7-16  means  7mm /16mm.   The OD of the FEMALE  that the PIN  plugs  into
> is 7mm  [.284" ]    The solid MALE  PIN itself is of  course, LESS than  7mm 
> OD. 
>
> ##  There is No RF on the male pin anyway.  Once mated, all the RF  travels  
> down
> the outside of the mating 7mm female.   The braid /shield  portion  goes to 
> the
> collet  fingers  of the mating FEMALE.  The  ID of this collet is a whopping 
> 16mm. 
>
> ## Then there is the actual threads.. which are way bigger than the inner 
> collet. 
> No rf on the big threads.  The threads  + inner female collet are ZERO  DC 
> ohms
> between em. 
>
> ##  years ago, Andrews announced  they  stopped  making UHF connectors  for 
> 7/8" heliax ! 
> The only connector that  is readily available for  7/8"  heliax,  and also 
> LMR-1200  is
> either a type N.... Or  a 7-16 DIN.... take ur pick.   I hate type N's with a 
> passion,most
> useless  bloody thing devised for bigger cable.   A 7-16 Din is a mid 60's  
> German military
> design, that caught on fast.  It's  now used exclusively on all  North 
> American cell  sites.
> We  dumped the last of the type N's   as of last summer.   All the new gear 
> has 7-16 dins. 
> All our competitor's  had already been using 7-16 dins.   A  7-16 male plug  
> for  7/8"...
> 1.25"  or 1 5/8"  heliax  doesn't cost much more, if any.. compared to a Type 
> N  for the
> same size cable.   What  really looks silly, is a type N  on a  1 5/8  heliax 
> cable !  Here
> you have a connector the  size of a coffee mug... with this tiny type N  pin 
> in the middle..
> which imo.. is just  glorified BNC crap.   The pin in a bnc is the same size 
> as a type N. 
>
> ##  You can easily  apply  5 x the torque on a 7-16 Din  connector  vs  a 
> type N  for the
> same size cable.  A 7-16 is good  to 6 ghz.  A type N is good  to 12 ghz... 
> and that's abt the
> only advantage of the type N.   2900 v rms   vs  500 v  rms. 
>
> ##  they make a bigger din too.. called a '13-30' 
>
> ## The old LC connectors are going out of vogue.  The LC  chassis  female 
> connector is 2"  square
> and uses  4 x 1/4-20  bolts.   A  7-16 din is only  1.25"  square.. and uses  
> 4 x 8-32  machine screws. 
> The type N  / SO-239  is  1" square.  
>
> ## 7-16  connector's  are readily available on the surplus market these days. 
>  Lightning protection
> devices use a pair of 7-16  chassis  dins in a box..  with a gas discharge 
> tube inside.  When the protector is
> doa, they toss em.   You can buy the blown ones  for $2.00...and remove the 
> pair of 7-16 din female chassis
> connectors. 
>
> later... Jim   VE7RF
>
>
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