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Re: [Amps] Shipping to Japan

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Shipping to Japan
From: Manfred Mornhinweg <manfred@ludens.cl>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:30:38 +0000
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Hello,

I would like to add some information to this, from the point of view of 
someone who lives outside the USA.

The USA is a pretty special case, it seems, regarding shipping of goods. 
In most countries in the world, the default shipping method used by 
everybody is mail. But in the USA, mail seems to have a bad reputation, 
and people in the USA prefer to use courier services, which might work 
well inside the USA, but are not always good in other countries. Also, 
courier services are typically several times as expensive as mail!

I live in Chile, and I regularly order lots of stuff from overseas - the 
USA, several European countries (including less known ones such as 
Latvia), China, Australia, South Africa, you name it. This stuff is 
electronic parts, music CDs, books, photo equipment and supplies, and a 
lot of other stuff. My most recent import was a chain saw spare part, 
and right now I'm awaiting a Fresnel magnifier for SMD work, and some 
movie DVDs.

Whenever I order any of this stuff from any country EXCEPT the USA, the 
default shipping is by airmail, and the shipping charges are reasonable 
or outright cheap, such as 23 dollars for a 15kg parcel from China to 
Chile. And the items arrive well. It takes some time, up to 4 weeks 
sometimes, but they do arrive.

When I try to order from the USA, things are different: Many sellers 
refuse to ship by mail. Others do offer shipping by mail, but try to 
discourage this. Some will ship by mail, as long as the address is not a 
P.O.Box. And some, fortunately, are willing to ship by mail, with no 
fuss and no restrictions. Those are the ones that get my orders. But 
even mail shipping from the USA is far more expensive than from some 
other countries, even if they are farther away and don't have direct 
flights to Chile! It's crazy.

Courier services such as Fedex or UPS are fast (3 to 4 days), but often 
have very poor service in Chile (and many other countries). I had a case 
when Fedex sent back a parcel because they didn't find my street 
address, which was correctly printed, and located in a well known road 
of a big city... go figure. Another time I was sent a parcel by UPS, 
which arrived when I was on a family trip for three days. They sent the 
parcel back on the second day, when no one opened the door!

Another time Fedex paid the import and sales tax for a parcel for me, 
then charged me that amount (which is fine), but ALSO charged me sales 
tax on the tax they paid! That's unfair, incorrect, no law requires them 
to do so. I guess they pocketed that money. But they would not give me 
the parcel if I didn't pay that inflated amount!

With mail, instead, all works well. It's slow, but pretty safe, and if 
there's nobody home the mailman will leave a note and take the parcel 
back to the post office, where it can be picked up up to one month 
later. They will emit further notes every week and deliver them to the 
address, before sending anything back. If there are custom charges, the 
parcel is held in the post office, they send a note, one goes to the 
post office, pays the taxes and gets the parcel.

Three years ago I moved to the countryside. Now my only shipping address 
is my P.O.Box in the nearest city. Neither the mail service, nor any 
courier service deliver to my rural location. I get everything through 
my P.O.Box, from letters to an outboard engine. It works great. But 80% 
of all US sellers, at least, are now out of reach for me, because they 
refuse to ship by mail, to a P.O.Box!

When I have to ship anything overseas myself, I use registered airmail. 
That's reasonably priced, simple, I get a legally valid document to 
prove that I actually shipped the parcel, the addresse has to sign when 
he gets it, and it is trackable online. It can also be insured, for 2% 
of the value.

About that amplifier to be sent to Japan, I would suggest to have a look 
at the different services offered by the US Postal Service. Very often 
International Priority Mail is the best performance/price tradeoff. It's 
likely that it will be far less expensive than a courier service, and 
that the Japanese ham getting the amp will be happier!

That said, shipping a heavy amp overseas aboard an airplane will be 
expensive in any case. I canot recommend surface mail, as it takes 
almost forever (four months to one year!), and the risk of theft or 
damage (moisture) is high. But maritime cargo services do exist, which 
put lots of stuff from different customers into one container, and ship 
that. They can be surprisingly inexpensive. I got two big generators 
from China by sea cargo. Each weighs 120kg. Shipping for the two of them 
was only a few dollars, Shanghai to Valparaiso! I couldn't really 
believe it until I got them. They took two months. But here I had to 
hire a customs broker to get them out of the port, and he charged about 
again as much as the shipping from China to Chile was. Still it was very 
inexpensive, overall.

Good luck with that far-travelling amp!

Manfred

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