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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 15:23:58 -0700
From: Paul Baldock <paul@paulbaldock.com>
To: <kg6i@comcast.net>,<amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Help constructing filament choke for pair of
3-500Zs on 6 m
The standard ferrite rod that you use for 10-80M works fine. I've
modded quite a few amps for 6 M and I remove half the turns from the
original choke. This reduces the inductance by a factor 4 and works
great for 6M.
- Paul
####  why does half the turns  result in one qtr the uh ?   I can see 
maybe
slightly less than half the original uh..but not a qtr.     I have played 
around with lots
of coils and also fil chokes..but never tried removing half the turns from 
a fil choke.
Did you shift the remaining turns to the center of the rod.....or just 
leave them 
down at one end ?     That will make a difference.
- At 10:20 AM 6/28/2013, Carl wrote:
 
Do the math.
A reactance of 10 times the input impedance of the tubes is
sufficient to have the choke "invisible" to the input RF.
Carl
KM1H
 
###  are u sure about that ?   The various books typ say the choke Z 
should be 
4 X the combined tube Z.
 
** The original ratios were 10X preferred. Over the years with a lot of 
extra drive and modifying the input network to compensate for the choke it 
went down to the 4-5X ratio 
 Heath only used 9 uh on the SB-220.   9uh = 198 ohms XL
 
@ 3.5 mhz.   A pair of 3-500Z is aprx 65 ohms, so heath only uses triple.
 
** And its a real compromise on 80 and also known to smoke the input 
coil...on the SB-200 too. 
 
##  To get  650 ohms Z  from a fil choke @  3.5 mhz, the choke would have 
to be  29.57 uh, 
and a whopping  58 uh  on 1.8 mhz !!    2.07uh on 50 mhz.
 
** Yep. Ever wonder why so many home brew 4-1000 3x3, and similar amps are 
such dogs on 160? Remember those 12" x 3/4" rods I used to sell? They took 
care of that problem.
If you have drive to burn then use less L on the choke and more C2 on the 
input. But be prepared to smoke a few marginal size choke bypasses if really 
pushing the ratio...you dont want RF in the filament transformer 
 
##  I measured  38 uh  for each winding, when using a 8 inch long type 43 
rod..with a
one half inch diam....and using bifilar wound  10 ga magnet  wire. 
Plastic clamps used on each 
so only seven and a half inchs of rod actually has wire wound on it.
 
** The rods I use are 33 mix
 
later... Jim   VE7RF
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