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Re: [Amps] Regulated filament current

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Regulated filament current
From: John Lyles <jtml@losalamos.com>
Reply-to: jtml@vla.com
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 00:42:28 -0600
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After reading several replies and my email from yesterday about this,
I realized that a clarification is due along with further topics.

When we talk about regulated filament current or voltage, we may be referring to using DC power. This complicates things, and the proper polarity of the filament power should comply with the manufacturers requirement. This can affect the apparent bias from grid to filament, along the length (height) of the filament basket.

It is possible to also have AC heating regulated, using servo-driven variacs or rheostats, saturable reactors (one of my favorites), or AC frequency generators. A common method in broadcast rigs is a ferroresonant (Sola) transformer, with a rheostat on the output to give a way to adjust the filament voltage. This is a simple constant voltage requlator. The output then drives the primary of the filament transformer.

As Steve Wright alluded, there are other potential factors in filament/cathode heating in RF power tubes. These are secondary effects, but in large tubes they may play important roles in getting the best life from a tube.

Foremost is RF backheating. This is essentially RF heating which causes the filament to rise in temperature beyond what the AC or DC heating power is producing. It is evident if you can watch both voltage and current, and notice a drop in current as RF power is increased. Once in this regime, it is advantageous to reduce the AC or DC filament voltage, to compensate for this additional source of heat. I haven't noted this in ham-sized tubes, but over 100 kW it seems to be more common. Maybe others can comment on whether this happens in kW level amplifier tubes, esp cathode driven tubes.

Second affect is filament heating from radiation from the grids and plate. Since these surfaces are adjacent and close, this can be another secondary source of heat. Various coatings can be applied to these elements to make them less of a blackbody radiator or re-radiator. This becomes a significant backheating source in high power tubes.

John
K5PRO

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 15:58:40 +1200
From: Steve Wright <stevewrightnz@gmail.com>
...

I was looking at similar using a programmable switching supply.  Once
the tube warms up fully, the current will normally drop off - except in
your case it won't be doing that.  Also, if "other" undefined RF
conditions cause the heat in the tube to drop then I think you might
discover some uncharted territory the tube designers never imagined.

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