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Subject: Re: [Amps] new amp race
From: Alek Petkovic <vk6apk@bigpond.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 10:20:18 +0800
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Don't forget to smear some aluminium jointing compound in the joint between the grid flange of the YC156/YC179 and the raw aluminium chassis. Electrolysis/corrosion sets in extremely quickly if you don't.

I discovered this when I was cooking some tubes with heater and fan running for a few days. As I removed the tube from the burn in jig, the start of corrosion was very evident.

73, Alek.
VK6APK

On 23/05/2017 9:58 PM, Thomas Walsh wrote:
Ditto on the yc-156 or better known ,as the
3cx5000A7, it will run on Ep of 3kv and higher,
at 25w in you get 1.5kw out, input imp.= 25ohms,
even the pulls from the mri world which only down
by a db or two will still produce 4-5kw out cw.
This means with 25w in and legal limit out, it is
really only idling! The bias is class AB and the
specs call for 1A idle current, that is for pulsed service with 10kv plate E, 
but it runs just fine
with 500ma idle and much less plate E in cw mode, granted a little skewed on 
the chart but only NCL's will bitch about this. It has fantastic imd specs at 
full pwr, so with the greatly reduced power levels used in ham radio, it is 
almost perfect!
And the best thing is - no socket to mess with!
Drill a 5.25 inch hole and you're done.
Tom,
W2CO



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On May 23, 2017, at 06:55, Jim Thomson<jim.thom@telus.net>  wrote:

Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 10:07:13 -0400
From: "Carl"<km1h@jeremy.qozzy.com>
To: "Catherine James"<catherine.james@att.net>,
<amps@contesting.com>, "Jim Thomson"<jim.thom@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] new amp race

<A 2 el Shorty 40 isnt out of anyones capability as Cushcraft has proven for
<several decades and now more brands are available with decent performance as
<compared to the rotary dummy loads of the past.

<There are several 2500-3000 W amps on the used market using commonly
<available tubes and homebrew is still alive and well with the bigger Russian
<tubes as well as Eimac. The Chinese 3CX3000A7, built with Eimac supplied
<tooling, is a fine tube and a bargain in the $800 range. Use one of the 400W
<rigs or an AL-600 booster amp. A SB-200 works fine if 160 isnt requires.
<Bigger Eimac and European/Chinese tubes are readily available.

<Carl

##  A 3CX-3000A7 is a superb bang for the buck, instant on too.  50 ohm input,  
–59 db IMD3.
4 kw ccs anode dissipation.   225 watt  CCS grid diss.
50 w in = 1.5 kw
100w   =  2.5 kw
150w = 3.5 kw
200  = 5.1 kw
400 =  8.5 kw

##  Its the ultimate...sleeper tube.   Heres the ultimate blower for the 3x3 
tube.
http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G20814
Puts out  70 cfm  @  1.2 inches of water pressure.   With that back pressure, 
current
draw is only .4 amp  from the 120 vac line.  It uses an EC motor instead of an 
AC motor or DC
motor.   Variable speed is built in....using an external 10 K pot. Blower 
doesnt even run luke warm.
Tube requires 67 cfm @ 1.2 inches of water pressure...@  40 deg C inlet air 
temp = 104 deg F.
Now you will never have 104 deg F in the shack, nor will  you ever diss  225 
watts of grid diss...so the
actual blower requirements are even less.  The tube is essentially doing 
nothing at 5-6 kw out, not even breaking
a sweat on rtty.   Not bad for a tube that is only 4.94 inches in diam.

Jim   VE7RF


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