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Re: [Amps] Fil transformer

To: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Fil transformer
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.qozzy.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 19:58:58 -0400
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 1:01 AM
Subject: [Amps] Fil transformer


Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:08:54 -1000
From: Merv Schweigert <k9fd@flex.com>
To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Fil transformer

<How about the old time trick of putting two low value resistors to
<ground, one from each side of the
<filament,  used to be used for a center tap many times in days of old.

## This isnt 1956 anymore. The B- has to float above ground a bit on a gg triode amp, in
order to measure both dc plate + dc grid current.
The two resistors would have to be wired in series....across the sec of the oem fil xfmr.
The junction point of the resistors becomes your new CT.


** What does 1956 have to do do with anything? The 2 resistors in series between the filament and the mid point becomes a virtual CT. I mentioned this yesterday.

## two resistors in series will work, provided they are each real low value. If say a pair of 10 ohm resistors used in series...and perhaps 600ma of plate current flowing,you will end up with 300 ma flowing through each of the 10 ohm resistors. 10 ohms X 300 ma = 3 volts. Thats another 3 vdc of unwanted bias on each side of the fil, yo-yoing up and down as you talk on ssb. Probably no big deal, moot point. You could also put a small electrolytic across each resistor. That would provide for a near constant 3 vdc, as both caps try and charge up when the plate current peaks.

** If 3V stains your undies use a lower value. It sure as hell beats buying a transformer for no value added if something isnt already on hand. I had 10 Ohm 5W MOX already on hand and the spectrum analyzer shows no effect.


## Its also .9 watt dissipation in each resistor, so if u go that route, use a 3 watt mof resistor.

## I cant fathom why dentron could miss such a fundamental concept. No surprise really. I had one of their dentron 160-10L 4 x 811 amps back in 1970. Its was a dogs breakfast right out of the box, new.

Jim   VE7RF


** With good filter caps there is no hum on SSB and just a trace on AM which is where I use my L and when the 300W dead carrier is ~ 40 over S9. I also use the transistor plus 1W zener bias method used on late run L's and all Clipperton QRO's and run the bias for a much lower idle current to improve efficiency and reduce strain on the old iron.

IMO changing anything is a waste of time/money for SSB as the several thousand Clipperton L's around do just fine with a good PS.

Carl

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