If you're really into scaring the birds, Ham Radio Outlet sells
very realistic looking plastic owls that only weigh a couple of
pounds. I recall several very satisfied customers for these
while I was working there. They were made by a hunting
supply company...or something like that. Can't recall the price
but it didn't seem outrageous.
73 Scott (soon and forever a "4") KY2P
---------------------
Forwarded message:
From: k0wa@southwind.net (Lee Buller)
Sender: owner-cq-contest@tgv.com
Reply-to: k0wa@southwind.net (Lee Buller)
To: aa7bg@initco.net (AA7BG Matt Trott)
CC: cq-contest@tgv.com
I have heard that a rubber snake is used to scare off birds....
My dad used one in his cherry trees and it worked!
But, how do explain that to the neighbors?
Lee
k0wa@southwind.net
>From bhorn@netcom.com (Bruce Horn) Thu Oct 10 02:24:25 1996
From: bhorn@netcom.com (Bruce Horn) (Bruce Horn)
Subject: Contest Calendar Vers. 96.10
Message-ID: <v02140b00ae819d704bb3@[204.212.59.136]>
CONTEST CALENDAR
October 9, 1996 Edition (96.10)
Please send corrections and additions directly to me. I will
post an updated calendar on a monthly basis. Thanks to N6TR, N9JF, VE2PIJ,
W3HDH, PA3BFM, UR5IBG, VS96BG, DL1DTL and ON7SS for contest info.
An HTML version of the calendar is available on request.
73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn@netcom.com)
The contest calendar is divided into two sections:
1) CONTEST CALENDAR: Calendar showing dates and times of scheduled
contests.
2) CONTEST LOG SUBMITTAL DEADLINES: Deadlines and addresses for
submitting logs for contests that have
already occurred or whose deadline will pass
before the next issue of the calendar.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
CONTEST CALENDAR:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please note that you may not be able to operate during all of the total
hours of the contests listed below. Total operating time may also vary
by entry category. See individual contest rules for allowed operating
hours.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
October, 1996
First Internet RTTY Sprint 0000Z-0300Z, Oct 10
VK/ZL/Oceania Contest, CW 1000Z, Oct 12 to 1000Z, Oct 13
EU Autumn Sprint, CW 1500Z-1859Z, Oct 12
Pennsylvania QSO Party 1600Z-2400Z, Oct 12 and 0000Z-0500Z and
1300Z-2200Z, Oct 13
FISTS CW Fall Sprint 1700Z-2100Z, Oct 12
JARTS WW RTTY Contest 0000Z, Oct 19 to 2400Z, Oct 20
QRP ARCI Fall QSO Party, CW 1200Z, Oct 19 to 2400Z, Oct 20
Asia-Pacific Sprint 1230Z-1430Z, Oct 19
Worked All Germany Contest 1500Z, Oct 19 to 1500Z, Oct 20
RGSB 21/28 MHz Contest, CW 0700Z-1900Z, Oct 20
Illinois QSO Party 1800Z, Oct 20 to 0200Z, Oct 21
CQ Worldwide Contest, Phone 0000Z, Oct 26 to 2400Z, Oct 27
ARRL EME Competition 0000Z, Oct 26 to 2400Z, Oct 27 (1st half)
Ten-Ten Int. Fall CW Contest 0000Z, Oct 26 to 2400Z, Oct 27
November, 1996 (U.S hams should note that CQWW is before Thanksgiving)
Ukranian DX Contest 1200Z, Nov 2 to 1200Z, Nov 3
ARRL Sweepstakes, CW 2100Z, Nov 2 to 0300Z, Nov 4
High Speed Club CW Contest 0900-1100Z and 1500-1700Z, Nov 3
Japan Int.DX Contest, Phone 2300Z, Nov 8 to 2300Z, Nov 10
WAE DX Contest, RTTY 0000Z, Nov 9 to 2400Z, Nov 10
ARRL Sweepstakes, Phone 2100Z, Nov 16 to 0300Z, Nov 18
RGSB 1.8 MHz Contest, CW 2100Z, Nov 16 to 0100Z, Nov 17
CQ Worldwide Contest, CW 0000Z, Nov 23 to 2400Z, Nov 24
ARRL EME Competition 0000Z, Nov 23 to 2400Z, Nov 24 (2nd half)
December, 1996
ARRL 160-Meter Contest 2200Z,.Dec 6 to 1600Z, Dec 8
ARRL 10-Meter Contest 0000Z, Dec 14 to 2400Z, Dec 15
TARA RTTY Sprint 1800Z, Dec 14 to 0200Z, Dec 15
Stu Perry Dist.Challenge (160) 1500Z, Dec 28 to 1500Z, Dec 29
RAC Canada Winter Contest 0000-2359Z, Dec 29
January, 1997
Japan Int.DX Contest, 160-40m 2200Z, Jan 10 to 2200Z, Jan 12
Midwinter Contest, CW 0700Z-1900Z, Jan 11
North Amer. QSO Party, CW 1800Z, Jan 11 to 0600Z, Jan 12
Midwinter Contest, Phone 0700Z-1900Z, Jan 12
North Amer. QSO Party, Phone 1800Z, Jan 18 to 0600Z, Jan 19
ARRL January VHF Sweepstakes 1900Z, Jan 18 to 0400Z, Jan 20
CQ 160-Meter Contest, CW 2200Z, Jan 24 to 1600Z, Jan 26
REF Contest, CW 0600Z, Jan 25 to 1800Z, Jan 26
UBA Contest, Phone 1300Z, Jan 25 to 1300Z, Jan 26
February 1997
Delaware QSO Party Feb 1 to Feb 2
Dutch PACC Contest 1200Z, Feb 8 to 1200Z, Feb 9
Asia-Pacific Sprint 1230Z-1430Z, Feb 8
YL-OM Contest, Phone 1400Z, Feb 8 to 0200Z, Feb 10
RGSB 1.8 MHz Contest, CW 2100Z, Feb 8 to 0100Z, Feb 9
North American Sprint, CW 0000Z-0359Z, Feb 9
ARRL Inter. DX Contest, CW 0000Z, Feb 15 to 2400Z, Feb 16
CQ 160-Meter Contest, Phone 2200Z, Feb 21 to 1600Z, Feb 23
North Carolina QSO Party 0000Z, Feb 22 to 2400Z, Feb 23
REF Contest, SSB 0600Z, Feb 22 to 1800Z, Feb 23
UBA Contest, CW 1300Z, Feb 22 to 1300Z, Feb 23
YL-OM Contest, CW 1400Z, Feb 22 to 0200Z, Feb 24
RGSB 7 MHz DX Contest, CW 1500Z, Feb 22 to 0900Z, Feb 23
March 1997
Bermuda Contest 0001Z, Mar 15 to 2400Z, Mar 16
BARTG WW RTTY Contest 0200Z, Mar 15 to 0200Z, Mar 17
CQWW WPX Contest, Phone 0000Z, Mar 29 to 2400Z, Mar 30
------------------------------------------------------------------------
End of calendar section
------------------------------------------------------------------------
CONTEST LOG SUBMITTAL DEADLINES:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please consult the individual contest rules to determine what log
documentation must be submitted (i.e. summary sheet, dupe sheets, etc.).
------------------------------------------------------------------------
North American Sprint, CW October 8, 1996
E-mail: cwsprint@contesting.com
Mail: Tree Tyree, N6TR
15125 SE Bartell Road
Boring, OR 97009
SARTG WW RTTY Contest October 10, 1996
E-mail: (none)
Mail: Bo Ohlsson, SM4CMG
Skulsta 1258
S-710 41 Fellingsbro, Sweden
First Internet RTTY Sprint October 13, 1996 0300Z
E-mail: barry@w2up.wells.com
Mail: (none)
North American Sprint, Phone October 15, 1996
E-mail: aoniswan@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu
Mail: Rick Niswander
P.O. Box 2701
Greenville, NC 27836
Utah Centennial QSO Party October 15, 1996
E-mail: alan@es.com
Mail: UCQP c/o AH3C
2150 East 6200 South
Salt Lake City, UT 84121
WAE DX Contest, SSB October 15, 1996
E-mail: 100712.2226@compuserve.com
Mail: WAEDC Contest Committee
P.O. Box 1126
D-74370 Sersheim
Germany
ARRL September VHF QSO Party October 16, 1996
E-mail: contest@arrl.org
Mail: ARRL September VHF QSO Party
225 Main Street
Newington, CT 06111
EU Autumn Sprint, SSB October 20, 1996
E-mail: (none)
Mail: Paolo Cortese, I2UIY
P.O. Box 14
27043 Broni (PV), Italy
Asia-Pacific Sprint October 22 (e-mail) and October 26, 1996
(paper)
E-mail: 9v1yc@equator.lugs.org.sg
Mail: Tack Kumagai (JAs only)
P.O. Box 22
Mitaka, Tokyo 181
Japan
James Brooks (non-JAs only)
26 Jalan Asas
Singapore 259801
Singapore
ARRL 10-GHz Contest October 22, 1996
E-mail: contest@arrl.org
Mail: ARRL 10-GHz and Up Cumulative Contest
225 Main Street
Newington, CT 06111
EU Autumn Sprint, CW October 27, 1996
E-mail: (none)
Mail: Karel Karmasin, OK2FD
Gen. Svobody 636
674 01 Trebic, Czech Republic
SEANET WW DX Contest, CW&SSB October 31, 1996
E-mail: (none)
Mail: SEANET Contest Manager
Eshee Pazak, 9M2FK
P.O. Box 13
10700 Penang
Malaysia
Islands Contest October 31, 1996
E-mail: (none)
Mail: Rees Jenkins, VE7IU
2647 Dunlevy Street
Victoria, BC
Canada V8R 5Z3
Washington State Salmon Run October 31, 1996
E-mail: w7tsq@aol.com (no encoding)
Mail: Bob Preston, W7TSQ
809 Cary Rd.
Edmonds, WA 98020
Venzuelan Ind. Day Contest,CW October 31, 1996
E-mail: (none)
Mail: Radio Club Venezolano
Concurso Independencia de Venezuela
P.O. Box 2285
Caracas 1010 A
Venezuela, S.A.
California QSO Party November 15, 1996
E-mail: cqp@contesting.com
Mail: NCCC
c/o Al Maenchen, AD6E
3330 Farthing Way
San Jose, CA 95132
VK/ZL/Oceania Contest, Phone November 16, 1996
E-mail: (none)
Mail: John Litten, ZL1AAS
Onemana Post
Whangamata
New Zealand
VK/ZL/Oceania Contest, CW November 23, 1996
E-mail: (none)
Mail: John Litten, ZL1AAS
Onemana Post
Whangamata
New Zealand
All Asian DX Contest, SSB November 30, 1996
E-mail: (none) Logs must arrive by
Mail: JARL this date
P.O. Box 377
Tokyo Central
Japan
CQ Worldwide Contest, RTTY December 1, 1996
E-mail: gould@corpcom-events.com
Mail: Roy Gould, KT1N
CQWW RTTY DX Contest Director
P.O. Box DX
Stow, MA 01775
USA
------------------------------------------------------------------------
End of log submittal deadlines
>From foggie@dtx.net (foggie) Wed Oct 9 22:12:28 1996
From: foggie@dtx.net (foggie) (foggie)
Subject: Linux Logger
Message-ID: <XFMail.961009211727.foggie@dtx.net>
I have placed a pre-beta/Alpha version of my linux logger program up for
download. There are still many things to be done, but the basics are there.
If anyone is using linux please try it out, and tell me if it works on your
machine. :) I think I have it compiled Static, but since I have all the libs, it
is hard to tell. It does the basics of logging, and writing to disk for CQ-WW,
hopefully by the test I will have more bugs ironed out. Still no CW, haven't had
a chance to write the drivers.
73,
Al - kk5zx
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>From ka8okh@som-uky.campus.mci.net (Rich Dailey, KA8OKH) Thu Oct 10 02:44:59
>1996
From: ka8okh@som-uky.campus.mci.net (Rich Dailey, KA8OKH) (Rich Dailey, KA8OKH)
Subject: ILL QP Template file (NA)?
Message-ID: <199610100246.WAA14603@som-uky-01.campus.mci.net>
Is there a ready made NA template file available for the ILL qso party (out of
state)?
Or, if someone could provide a county abbrev. list, I'll make one up and make
it available.
73... rich
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Rich Dailey - KA8OKH <ka8okh@som-uky.campus.mci.net>
Somerset Electronics Co. - Somerset, KY
Expert repair on all major brands of CATV line/headend, & TVRO equipment.
Opinions expressed here are of my own unique design.
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>From kn6dv@QNET.COM (Will, KN6DV) Thu Oct 10 04:03:02 1996
From: kn6dv@QNET.COM (Will, KN6DV) (Will, KN6DV)
Subject: KN6DV RTTY sprINT
Message-ID: <199610100304.UAA24000@ns2.qnet.com>
score KN6DV Will 83 QSO's
http://www.av.qnet.com/~kn6dv
REFORM
Unless the reformer can invent something which substitutes attractive
virtues vices, he will fail.
(Walter Lippmann)
>From ki6fe@nwlink.com (Ryuichi Nakano) Thu Oct 10 04:46:21 1996
From: ki6fe@nwlink.com (Ryuichi Nakano) (Ryuichi Nakano)
Subject: Team contesting
Message-ID: <325C718D.1794@nwlink.com>
Hi Gangs
We are going to participate in a team contesting competition
as "Team Nippon" in CQ WW Phone. Our members are following:
Station Operator Location
JH7PKU Same Asia
6Y5XX JE3MAS North America
FG5BG JF2DQJ North America
V85HG JO1RUR Oceania
3DA0NX JM1CAX Africa
We really want to compete seriously with YCCC, SCCC or other gangs.
We all are in Single Op All Band. See you on the weekend.
Ryu Nakano
JF2DQJ es KI6FE
ki6fe@nwlink.com
>From kj5yf@wt.net (Larry Johnson) Thu Oct 10 12:07:56 1996
From: kj5yf@wt.net (Larry Johnson) (Larry Johnson)
Subject: RF Overload/Filter Problem
Message-ID: <BMSMTP8449450764kj5yf@pop3.wt.net>
Am trying to get things ready for the CW WW in Nov, and I've got a nagging
problem that I've put off but need to solve. When running high power (in this
case 400w up), I overload my 2m rig that I use for DX packet cluster and all
sorts of things happen, like xmit lights on the rig and garbage on the screen.
100w is no problem, but with 400w from a homebrew it was a problem. Now it
really will be a problem given I've picked up an FT2100b. Moving the antennas
is not an option. So...does anyone know of anybody that makes a 50 ohm high
pass filter that I can put between the 2m rig and coax to keep the HF out and
that will handle the 50w out of the 2m rig? Or any other solutions? Barring
that, I'm going to have to pull out the tables and make one myself...
* Larry Johnson
* KJ5YF @ WT.NET
* Houston, Texas U.S.A.
>From nortonr@mrd.srl.dsto.defence.gov.au (Norton, Richard) Thu Oct 10
>22:23:00 1996
From: nortonr@mrd.srl.dsto.defence.gov.au (Norton, Richard) (Norton, Richard)
Subject: Analogous Activities to Packet-Aided Contesting
Message-ID: <325D8567@msmail.dsto.defence.gov.au>
Some comments on the concept of some competitors aiding some other
competitors in activities similar to radio contesting follow.
1) Birding
Birding, or sport birdwatching, is about the closest activity to radio
contesting that I know of. Birders look for rare things that are mixed in
with common things. They have the equivalent to DXCC honor rolls, the
equivalent to new and deleted countries. They even have the equivalent to
packet spotting of rare ones, done by telephone.
However, when it comes to their contests, there is no spotting or helping
allowed. Competitors are not allowed to look at rare-bird bulletin boards at
the entrances to parks. If another birder sees you looking for birds and
starts to talk, you are supposed to interrupt him and tell him that you are
in a contest, and ask him to please not give you any aid today.
If you see a group of people looking into a tree with binoculars, you are
allowed to investigate the pile-up, but you are supposed to tell them that
you are in a contest, and ask them not to identify the bird for you.
2) Bridge
The card game of bridge is similar to radio contests in that players try to
use clues to decide their play, just like contesters use clues to decide
whether and where to CQ or search for multipliers.
Rank beginners might play hands with the opponent's cards exposed. It's
pretty hard to make a mistake. However, when there are tournaments, there
are no mirrors around so that some "assisted" players can see exactly what
they should do. It would affect the outcomes of the serious players, just
like packet-users affect serious radio contesters today.
3) Any "Sport"
It is a key rule in any sport that competitors play their best to win. They
do not play poorly or aid friendly teams so that their friends can win, have
big scores, or set records.
California baseball teams do not have an agreement that they should pitch
easy to each other, so that the home-run champion will be from California.
The concept of some competitors aiding other competitors in a sport is
simply unsportsmanlike.
Help make radio contesting a sport. Support elimination of packet-spotting
in any serious radio contest.
73,
Dick Norton, N6AA/VK5
NortonR@MRD.SRL.DSTO.DEFENCE.GOV.AU
or
N6AA@contesting.com
>From pa3dmh@igr.nl (Alex van Hengel) Thu Oct 10 19:18:29 1996
From: pa3dmh@igr.nl (Alex van Hengel) (Alex van Hengel)
Subject: 1996 Caribbean Tour
Message-ID: <325D3DF5.4692@igr.nl>
Hello to all.
The 1996 Caribbean Tour by members of PI4COM is completed.
Logs of the complete trip are now available on the tour Website
to check whether you are in the log.
Also the first stories and pictures are available there.
The Website address: http://www.igr.nl/~pa3dmh/tour1996.htm
73' ALex
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Alex van Hengel, PA3DMH
Secretary Contestgroup Oude Maas PI4COM/PA6WPX
Homepage PI4COM : http://www.euronet.nl/users/norf/pi4com.html
1996 Carib Tour : http://www.igr.nl/~pa3dmh/tour1996.htm
Internet e-mail : pa3dmh@igr.nl
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>From cshinn@connect.net (charles d. shinn) Thu Oct 10 17:10:11 1996
From: cshinn@connect.net (charles d. shinn) (charles d. shinn)
Subject: Analogous Activities to Packet-Aided Contesting
Message-ID: <01BBB68A.DAA7E940@a1p28.connect.net>
The real root question in this mier is one of finding ones moral self. =
For that I would suggest a review of the Great Books and some =
significant time spent in the church of your choice ( or other =
facilitator of "Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You"); not =
by policing gimmicks.
----------
From: Norton, Richard[SMTP:nortonr@mrd.srl.dsto.defence.gov.au]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 1996 2:23 PM
To: CQ-Contest
Subject: Analogous Activities to Packet-Aided Contesting
Some comments on the concept of some competitors aiding some other=20
competitors in activities similar to radio contesting follow.
1) Birding
Birding, or sport birdwatching, is about the closest activity to radio=20
contesting that I know of. Birders look for rare things that are mixed =
in=20
with common things. They have the equivalent to DXCC honor rolls, the=20
equivalent to new and deleted countries. They even have the equivalent =
to=20
packet spotting of rare ones, done by telephone.
However, when it comes to their contests, there is no spotting or =
helping=20
allowed. Competitors are not allowed to look at rare-bird bulletin =
boards at=20
the entrances to parks. If another birder sees you looking for birds and =
starts to talk, you are supposed to interrupt him and tell him that you =
are=20
in a contest, and ask him to please not give you any aid today.
If you see a group of people looking into a tree with binoculars, you =
are=20
allowed to investigate the pile-up, but you are supposed to tell them =
that=20
you are in a contest, and ask them not to identify the bird for you.
2) Bridge
The card game of bridge is similar to radio contests in that players try =
to=20
use clues to decide their play, just like contesters use clues to decide =
whether and where to CQ or search for multipliers.
Rank beginners might play hands with the opponent's cards exposed. It's=20
pretty hard to make a mistake. However, when there are tournaments, =
there=20
are no mirrors around so that some "assisted" players can see exactly =
what=20
they should do. It would affect the outcomes of the serious players, =
just=20
like packet-users affect serious radio contesters today.
3) Any "Sport"
It is a key rule in any sport that competitors play their best to win. =
They=20
do not play poorly or aid friendly teams so that their friends can win, =
have=20
big scores, or set records.
California baseball teams do not have an agreement that they should =
pitch=20
easy to each other, so that the home-run champion will be from =
California.
The concept of some competitors aiding other competitors in a sport is=20
simply unsportsmanlike.
Help make radio contesting a sport. Support elimination of =
packet-spotting=20
in any serious radio contest.
73,
Dick Norton, N6AA/VK5
NortonR@MRD.SRL.DSTO.DEFENCE.GOV.AU
or
N6AA@contesting.com
>From IADIAHFD@NETINS.NET (Larry Lindblom) Thu Oct 10 14:21:45 1996
From: IADIAHFD@NETINS.NET (Larry Lindblom) (Larry Lindblom)
Subject: Da Birds
Message-ID: <199610101321.IAA20844@insosf1.netins.net>
At 02:58 PM 10/9/96 CDT, you wrote:
>At some point one wonders about contacting animal control in the local
>municipality for a source of poison (or at least "get sick to your stomach"
>) seed. Put a feeder up instead of getting a shotgun. Reminds me a little
>of Tai Chi -- don't resist; put your opponent's weakness to good use.
>--Paul Beckmann
> wa0rse@amsat.org
>P.S. Pigeons are *very* good at remembering stimulus-response pairings. If
>they have gotten sick around your place in the past, they may not come back.
>Then again, they may just not *eat* there!
>P.P.S. I'm seriously interested in this as well since my proposed tower
>goes right up through a deck attached to the back of the house!!
>
>--
In my prior life I spent many hours in rat and pigeon labs. What your
talking about is taste aversion learning. It happens in humans just as well
as pigeons, etc.
Unless they ingest enough to die the birds will be back. They will just
avoid eating anything that looks or tastes like what they previously got
sick from eating. Said another way they connect the sickenss with the
particular stimulas (e.g., apperance and color of the food) and don't
generalize it to all of the background stimuli.
The city of Des Moines, IA paid big $$ over the years in an effort to rid
the downtown area of pigeons. At best the birds only moved from one
building to another. So if anyone finds a "cure" the city fathers will be
interested.
For me the final line is, if ya have da birds take up a second hobby - bird
watching - think of the advantage you have over those without tall towers
and big antennas. There are several excellent bird watching guides
abailable, but that is a topic for another reflector.
WA0ETC
Larry Lindblom
>From office%alltrom.eunet.ro@TGV.COM (ALLTROM) Thu Oct 10 21:42:12 1996
From: office%alltrom.eunet.ro@TGV.COM (ALLTROM) (ALLTROM)
Subject: Crystal filter - information wanted
Message-ID: <199610101344.AANW23724@Relay.Romania.EU.net>
-- [ From: ALLTROM * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
Hello everybody!
My name is Mike, YO3CTK.
Please help me find some technical data for a crystal filter manufactured by
SNELGROVE company some years ago. On the filter it is written:
C.R. SNELGROVE CO. LTD
DON MILLS ONTARIO
MODEL F 1500-1L
Some rough tests performed on the filter revealed that it is apparently a
LSB filter (1497-1500kHz) but I have to know correct terminal impedance and
pass-band and stop-band attenuation figures.
An attempt to reach SNELGROVE yielded the information that this company is
out of business. So you folks are my only chance. I intend to use this
filter in Makhinson's high dynamic-range front-end circuit (QST), in an
effort to build a 40m contest-grade receiver. 40m band is so full of strong
signals here in Europe!
Please reply direct at office@alltrom.eunet.ro. Thank you.
See you in CQWW !
73 Mike
>From k5na@bga.com (Richard L. King) Thu Oct 10 14:57:43 1996
From: k5na@bga.com (Richard L. King) (Richard L. King)
Subject: Analogous Activities to Packet-Aided Contesting
Message-ID: <199610101357.IAA03027@zoom.bga.com>
>N6AA wrote:
>
>Some comments on the concept of some competitors aiding some other
>competitors in activities similar to radio contesting follow.
>
>1) Birding
>
>Birding, or sport birdwatching, is about the closest activity to radio
>contesting that I know of. Birders look for rare things that are mixed in
>with common things. They have the equivalent to DXCC honor rolls, the
>equivalent to new and deleted countries. They even have the equivalent to
>packet spotting of rare ones, done by telephone.
>
>However, when it comes to their contests, there is no spotting or helping
>allowed. Competitors are not allowed to look at rare-bird bulletin boards at
>the entrances to parks. If another birder sees you looking for birds and
>starts to talk, you are supposed to interrupt him and tell him that you are
>in a contest, and ask him to please not give you any aid today.
>
>If you see a group of people looking into a tree with binoculars, you are
>allowed to investigate the pile-up, but you are supposed to tell them that
>you are in a contest, and ask them not to identify the bird for you.
>
I don't see your point. What's wrong with saying, " Hey Marge, there's a
Red-Breasted Worm-Gobbler down by the creek. Check it out". Some people
could care less about the competition and they just want to see the pretty
birds.
>2) Bridge
>
>The card game of bridge is similar to radio contests in that players try to
>use clues to decide their play, just like contesters use clues to decide
>whether and where to CQ or search for multipliers.
>
>Rank beginners might play hands with the opponent's cards exposed. It's
>pretty hard to make a mistake. However, when there are tournaments, there
>are no mirrors around so that some "assisted" players can see exactly what
>they should do. It would affect the outcomes of the serious players, just
>like packet-users affect serious radio contesters today.
>
Huh? You are really getting way out there Dick.
>3) Any "Sport"
>
>It is a key rule in any sport that competitors play their best to win. They
>do not play poorly or aid friendly teams so that their friends can win, have
>big scores, or set records.
>
>California baseball teams do not have an agreement that they should pitch
>easy to each other, so that the home-run champion will be from California.
That's not true? I have heard that where there is denial, there is some truth.
>The concept of some competitors aiding other competitors in a sport is
>simply unsportsmanlike.
A marathon runner who stops to help up a competitor that has fallen seems to
be a true sportsman.
>Help make radio contesting a sport. Support elimination of packet-spotting
>in any serious radio contest.
Dick, you are really beating a dead horse on this issue. When are you going
to understand that many operators LIKE to use the PacketCluster because it
is FUN!!!? Also, single-op assisted is NOT against the rules of the contest.
If you tell these folks to "get lost because they are not wanted in your
level of pure competition", then the contest will suffer. Most of them could
care less about the level of competition you are talking about. They just
want to make some QSOs or work some DX and packet helps out.
I, for one, wish people would stop using far-out, cute analogies to discuss
cheating in contests. It isn't a contest to determine how intellectual the
presenter can present his case. Please call it like it is, in plain terms,
so we can have REAL discussions about cheating and how to eliminate it.
This isn't a personal attack on Dick, as he is an old friend of mine and I
have a great deal of respect for him. The CQ-CONTEST forum is an excellent
forum to apply peer pressure on real cheaters. But we should keep the
discussion in plain language and go after REAL cheating scenarios.
73, Richard
K5NA@BGA.COM
http://www.realtime.net/~k5na
>From n3kkm@netrax.net (Bill All) Thu Oct 10 16:39:33 1996
From: n3kkm@netrax.net (Bill All) (Bill All)
Subject: PAQSO Party Rules??
Message-ID: <325D18B5.620B@netrax.net>
I am looking for official rules for the Pennsylvania QSO Party this
weekend. Please reply direct to n3kkm@netrax.net
de bill n3kkm
>From mudcp3@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (David C. Patton) Thu Oct 10 17:02:15 1996
From: mudcp3@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (David C. Patton) (David C. Patton)
Subject: CQWW CW 1995 fills?
Message-ID: <199610101602.LAA13166@ecom1.ecn.bgu.edu>
Anyone know who operated the following stations in the 1995 CQWW CW?
CK7A 14 MHz
7Q7A AB low power
S92PI 14 MHz low power
HZ1AB 14 MHz
TKS. Replies direct please to wx3n@contesting.com
>From km9p@contesting.com (Bill Fisher KM9P) Thu Oct 10 17:03:18 1996
From: km9p@contesting.com (Bill Fisher KM9P) (Bill Fisher KM9P)
Subject: K4PQL Hurricane Damage Pix
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.961010120202.760A-100000@paris.akorn.net>
Thought some of you guys might be interested in seeing Howie's pictures
post-hurricane. He sent them to me this week and are now posted on
www.contesting.com
73
Bill, KM9P
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